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GTR and XU1 verification thread
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Posted 27 February 2010 - 01:54 PM
Hi,
I know this question has probably been asked a million times on here but I hardly look at the LC/LJ stuff so wouldn't have seen the answers given.
Anyway can a LJ XU1 be verified with just the body tag, engine number and the chassis number? I was looking at a car that is being sold as an XU1 but only has the body plate in way of tags, so am I right in thinking that without the vin tag its useless?
Cheers.
I know this question has probably been asked a million times on here but I hardly look at the LC/LJ stuff so wouldn't have seen the answers given.
Anyway can a LJ XU1 be verified with just the body tag, engine number and the chassis number? I was looking at a car that is being sold as an XU1 but only has the body plate in way of tags, so am I right in thinking that without the vin tag its useless?
Cheers.
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Posted 27 February 2010 - 04:46 PM
that wouldnt be a green one???, and that would be worthless not useless.
cheers gong
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Posted 27 February 2010 - 05:40 PM
Has this car been advertised somewhere?
Edited by glenn stanley, 27 February 2010 - 05:41 PM.
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Posted 27 February 2010 - 07:22 PM
that wouldnt be a green one???, and that would be worthless not useless.
cheers gong
It certainly would be Gong.........Both Green and worthless so it seems.....Bugger!
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Posted 01 March 2010 - 02:03 PM
Hi,
I know this question has probably been asked a million times on here but I hardly look at the LC/LJ stuff so wouldn't have seen the answers given.
Anyway can a LJ XU1 be verified with just the body tag, engine number and the chassis number? I was looking at a car that is being sold as an XU1 but only has the body plate in way of tags, so am I right in thinking that without the vin tag its useless?
Cheers.
This is most likely the same one I looked at a few weeks ago. She's the real deal though! I'l d love to throw it around the race track, I reckon she would go alright. It sounds bloody awesome too!
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Posted 01 March 2010 - 05:37 PM
Hey, I was if anybody could help I have a rolling chassis of a LC 2 door torana, the problem I have is that the VIN plate and the body identification plates are missing,
the only plate I have out of the three is the Safety Compliance Plate.
This tells me it was manufactured April 1970, the chassis number is LC 09267 B
it does have the 18 gallon fuel tank in the boot, the fluked guards and under the left rear quarter window there are two holes, I think are the gtr badge holes.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks
Jeff
the only plate I have out of the three is the Safety Compliance Plate.
This tells me it was manufactured April 1970, the chassis number is LC 09267 B
it does have the 18 gallon fuel tank in the boot, the fluked guards and under the left rear quarter window there are two holes, I think are the gtr badge holes.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks
Jeff
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Posted 01 March 2010 - 05:57 PM
Hey, I was if anybody could help I have a rolling chassis of a LC 2 door torana, the problem I have is that the VIN plate and the body identification plates are missing,
the only plate I have out of the three is the Safety Compliance Plate.
This tells me it was manufactured April 1970, the chassis number is LC 09267 B
it does have the 18 gallon fuel tank in the boot, the fluked guards and under the left rear quarter window there are two holes, I think are the gtr badge holes.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks
Jeff
Hi Jeff
Welcome to the forum. Sorry mate, nothing can be gained from a Brisbane Chassis Number. The back of your ADR tag may reveal the Body Number but that won't help identify the model either. If your car has any GTR identifiers, the best that you can say it that it is a "tagless" GTR.
Cheers
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 03:39 PM
Hi
I have a 6/71 lc gtr
with tags as follows
model lc82911m
body no 21821b
trim 1199 40v
paint 56812204
chassis lc 34870b
no vin tag as this was damaged in accident
any info would be helpful
thanks mick
I have a 6/71 lc gtr
with tags as follows
model lc82911m
body no 21821b
trim 1199 40v
paint 56812204
chassis lc 34870b
no vin tag as this was damaged in accident
any info would be helpful
thanks mick
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 04:03 PM
Hi
I will PM you.
Cheers
Bazza
I will PM you.
Cheers
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 07:20 PM
Sorry mate, nothing can be gained from a Brisbane Chassis Number. The back of your ADR tag may reveal the Body Number but that won't help identify the model either. If your car has any GTR identifiers, the best that you can say it that it is a "tagless" GTR.
Thanks for the info Bazza, greatly appreciated
Great forum
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Posted 17 March 2010 - 06:33 PM
Hi Bazza
As you can see, i am a Torana forum virgin so please be gentle with me and i hope you will still respect me in the morning.
Now to the content.Some help please. I am looking at the details from an LC Gtr.
Near side rail- LC 02986B
VIN plate- 82911CH614088
Body id plate- Model -Lc82911
Body No- 21064B
Trim- 1194-48x
Paint- 567-11905
Engine No -2600S6061
The plates look as though they have not ever been removed from the vehicle,the front clip also looks original.Paint colour,trimand engine accesories are all as they should be.
The cars details are on disc #4 ,page 155. Please yell me , what am i looking at ?.
Regards Mick
As you can see, i am a Torana forum virgin so please be gentle with me and i hope you will still respect me in the morning.
Now to the content.Some help please. I am looking at the details from an LC Gtr.
Near side rail- LC 02986B
VIN plate- 82911CH614088
Body id plate- Model -Lc82911
Body No- 21064B
Trim- 1194-48x
Paint- 567-11905
Engine No -2600S6061
The plates look as though they have not ever been removed from the vehicle,the front clip also looks original.Paint colour,trimand engine accesories are all as they should be.
The cars details are on disc #4 ,page 155. Please yell me , what am i looking at ?.
Regards Mick
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Posted 17 March 2010 - 07:12 PM
Hi Mick
Welcome to the forum.
That VIN relates to a Sydney assembled GTR. There is no completion date, but looking at VINs in the same range, I would suggest a completion date of mid-Nov '69. Being pre Jan 1970 there will be no ADR plate fitted under the bonnet. The Chassis Number and Sydney Body Number are date consistent with the VIN. Engine numbers were rarely recorded in the early days of the LC range, but I can say that 2600S6xxx would be right for a Nov '69 completed car.
The colour is Verdoro Green Metallic and the interior trim is Sandalwood vinyl.
Remember that the tags are only half the story and an expert should inspect any potential purchase.
It looks the goods - good luck.
Cheers
Bazza
Welcome to the forum.
That VIN relates to a Sydney assembled GTR. There is no completion date, but looking at VINs in the same range, I would suggest a completion date of mid-Nov '69. Being pre Jan 1970 there will be no ADR plate fitted under the bonnet. The Chassis Number and Sydney Body Number are date consistent with the VIN. Engine numbers were rarely recorded in the early days of the LC range, but I can say that 2600S6xxx would be right for a Nov '69 completed car.
The colour is Verdoro Green Metallic and the interior trim is Sandalwood vinyl.
Remember that the tags are only half the story and an expert should inspect any potential purchase.
It looks the goods - good luck.
Cheers
Bazza
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Posted 17 March 2010 - 07:48 PM
Hello again Bazza
Thank you for the incredibly fast responce to my questions !!!
I thought the letter "B" on the Chassis and at the end of the body number meant Brisbane build,which would not match with H6.
One last question,can you tell me who dealer 602 is please?
Regards again
Mick
Thank you for the incredibly fast responce to my questions !!!
I thought the letter "B" on the Chassis and at the end of the body number meant Brisbane build,which would not match with H6.
One last question,can you tell me who dealer 602 is please?
Regards again
Mick
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Posted 17 March 2010 - 09:38 PM
Hi Mick
You are correct, the suffix "B" does signify Brisbane. Sydney used Brisbane built chassis and Melbourne used Adelaide built chassis. Sorry we don't have the name of dealer 602, but it was located in NSW.
Cheers
Bazza
You are correct, the suffix "B" does signify Brisbane. Sydney used Brisbane built chassis and Melbourne used Adelaide built chassis. Sorry we don't have the name of dealer 602, but it was located in NSW.
Cheers
Bazza
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Hi guys!
I not so long bought a "supposed" LC GTR. ID tags came with the car, but were taken off in its life sometime (perhaps for painting as it has been resprayed, engine bay and all). I have 2 tags, the 1st is the one that lists the model, body number, trim etc.. and the other is a thin skinny one (looks real old and ratty).
I was wondering if it was possible to get any info on the car, and find out if it is infact a GTR.
1st Tag
Model - LC 82911 (i understand thats the GTR code)
Body # - 2089-A
Trim - 1803-48 V
Paint - 567-12185
2nd Tag
8C69LCL246930J
The VIN that Vicroads has recorded here is LC19434A.
That VIN looks like it matches a number stamped into the top left hand side wheel arch in the engine bay.
Any help would be much appreciated!!
Cheers in advance
I not so long bought a "supposed" LC GTR. ID tags came with the car, but were taken off in its life sometime (perhaps for painting as it has been resprayed, engine bay and all). I have 2 tags, the 1st is the one that lists the model, body number, trim etc.. and the other is a thin skinny one (looks real old and ratty).
I was wondering if it was possible to get any info on the car, and find out if it is infact a GTR.
1st Tag
Model - LC 82911 (i understand thats the GTR code)
Body # - 2089-A
Trim - 1803-48 V
Paint - 567-12185
2nd Tag
8C69LCL246930J
The VIN that Vicroads has recorded here is LC19434A.
That VIN looks like it matches a number stamped into the top left hand side wheel arch in the engine bay.
Any help would be much appreciated!!
Cheers in advance
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Posted 19 March 2010 - 04:20 PM
I meant to say "Not so long AGO I bought" lol.. long day at work, shhh
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Posted 19 March 2010 - 04:27 PM
Hi Krustoph
Firstly, the long skinny tag is from a July 1973 LJ SL 4 door. The Chassis Number LC19434A accords with a production date of Oct 1970. The Body Tag with the number 2089-A is from a GTR (or XU-1) from Oct 1970. There is no way to tell whether the Body Tag 'belongs' to that Chassis despite being from around the same period.
You will need to have a skilled person take a look at your car to determine whether is is the real deal. It may be a GTR or XU-1 produced in Adelaide or a GTR produced in Melbourne. Both assembly plants used Adelaide parts. The worst case scenario is that you have a 2 door S model fitted with mixed tags. Do you have the original engine number? The colour from the Body Tag is Burnished Bronze Met with Sandalwood trim. It is not likely to be an XU-1 with this combination.
Cheers
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Firstly, the long skinny tag is from a July 1973 LJ SL 4 door. The Chassis Number LC19434A accords with a production date of Oct 1970. The Body Tag with the number 2089-A is from a GTR (or XU-1) from Oct 1970. There is no way to tell whether the Body Tag 'belongs' to that Chassis despite being from around the same period.
You will need to have a skilled person take a look at your car to determine whether is is the real deal. It may be a GTR or XU-1 produced in Adelaide or a GTR produced in Melbourne. Both assembly plants used Adelaide parts. The worst case scenario is that you have a 2 door S model fitted with mixed tags. Do you have the original engine number? The colour from the Body Tag is Burnished Bronze Met with Sandalwood trim. It is not likely to be an XU-1 with this combination.
Cheers
Bazza
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Posted 20 March 2010 - 05:13 PM
Hi just wondering if someone could verify these numbers for me
6 month 1972
alj06284b
model lj82911
body no 06345b
trim 1822 40x
paint 56813135
Vin tag 82911jh235782
All info would be much appreciated
Ben
6 month 1972
alj06284b
model lj82911
body no 06345b
trim 1822 40x
paint 56813135
Vin tag 82911jh235782
All info would be much appreciated
Ben
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Hi Krustoph
Firstly, the long skinny tag is from a July 1973 LJ SL 4 door. The Chassis Number LC19434A accords with a production date of Oct 1970. The Body Tag with the number 2089-A is from a GTR (or XU-1) from Oct 1970. There is no way to tell whether the Body Tag 'belongs' to that Chassis despite being from around the same period.
You will need to have a skilled person take a look at your car to determine whether is is the real deal. It may be a GTR or XU-1 produced in Adelaide or a GTR produced in Melbourne. Both assembly plants used Adelaide parts. The worst case scenario is that you have a 2 door S model fitted with mixed tags. Do you have the original engine number? The colour from the Body Tag is Burnished Bronze Met with Sandalwood trim. It is not likely to be an XU-1 with this combination.
Cheers
Bazza
Thanks Bazza for your quick reply.
Im already aware that the chance of it being an XU-1 is very rare, if not NIL. Ive been trying to confirm that is is infact a GTR (atleast) with a number of sources (including my mechanic that built one of Brockys L34's for Bathurst (1974 / 5 if i remember correctly)) and no one has suggested that is is anything less than a GTR. It is a bit frustrating trying to get that info given that I cant even verify if the tags I have are from the car itself. I had a sure feeling that the "long skinny tag" (to use correct terminology) was off something else. I will continue to badger people and get their advice and tap into the knowledge to verify that it is what I think it is.
As far as the engine number, in the early 1980's the car was modified with a 308 V8 with mild cam. I might give VICroads a call and see if I can get the original engine number for the car.
Are there any tell tail signs between an 2 door S model and a GTR? perhaps a bracket in the boot where the spare wheel well is? Boot light? or anything else? Ive been through google and many forums but there is just no info that I can find that can tell you any difference between the 2.
Once again, thanks Bazza for your assistance, it is so much appreciated you will never know!!
Cheers
Chris
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Posted 20 March 2010 - 06:55 PM
Hi Chris
Glad to help. I will get back to you by PM
Cheers
Bazza
Glad to help. I will get back to you by PM
Cheers
Bazza
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Posted 20 March 2010 - 07:41 PM
Hi just wondering if someone could verify these numbers for me
6 month 1972
alj06284b
model lj82911
body no 06345b
trim 1822 40x
paint 56813135
Vin tag 82911jh235782
All info would be much appreciated
Ben
result for vin number JH235782
built 8/6/72
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dealer 898
motor JP 160856
trim 40x..black
paint 13135..The lone O ranger
got pics of your car??
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 08:06 AM
Hi just wondering if someone could verify these numbers for me
6 month 1972
alj06284b
model lj82911
body no 06345b
trim 1822 40x
paint 56813135
Vin tag 82911jh235782
All info would be much appreciated
Ben
result for vin number JH235782
built 8/6/72
sold 6/72
dealer 898
motor JP 160856
trim 40x..black
paint 13135..The lone O ranger
got pics of your car??
No sorry no pics, are you able to tell me if it is an xu1 or just a gtr
Thanks Ben
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 09:14 AM
[quote name='Krustoph' date='20 March 2010 - 05:30 PM' timestamp='1269070242' post='491811']
[quote name='Bazza' date='19 March 2010 - 04:27 PM' timestamp='1268980024' post='491485']
Hi Krustoph
Are there any tell tail signs between an 2 door S model and a GTR? perhaps a bracket in the boot where the spare wheel well is? Boot light? or anything else? Ive been through google and many forums but there is just no info that I can find that can tell you any difference between the 2.
Chris
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Hi Chris
The LC GTR had a different accelerator bracket spot welded to the firewall, triangular shaped plate sitting horizontally with a pivot pin protruding up vertically off it for the relay lever to suit the push/pull action of the WW2 carb.
LC 6cyl S, SL & XU1 and all LJ 6yl models all have the smaller bracket with the large hole to suit the rubber grommet and sintered bronze bush.
If the larger GTR triangular bracket isn't present on the firewall check for signs that it may have been removed or if it is present that it may have been welded on by someone other than at the factory.
Cheers
Dave
[quote name='Bazza' date='19 March 2010 - 04:27 PM' timestamp='1268980024' post='491485']
Hi Krustoph
Are there any tell tail signs between an 2 door S model and a GTR? perhaps a bracket in the boot where the spare wheel well is? Boot light? or anything else? Ive been through google and many forums but there is just no info that I can find that can tell you any difference between the 2.
Chris
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Hi Chris
The LC GTR had a different accelerator bracket spot welded to the firewall, triangular shaped plate sitting horizontally with a pivot pin protruding up vertically off it for the relay lever to suit the push/pull action of the WW2 carb.
LC 6cyl S, SL & XU1 and all LJ 6yl models all have the smaller bracket with the large hole to suit the rubber grommet and sintered bronze bush.
If the larger GTR triangular bracket isn't present on the firewall check for signs that it may have been removed or if it is present that it may have been welded on by someone other than at the factory.
Cheers
Dave
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 10:08 AM
Hi just wondering if someone could verify these numbers for me
6 month 1972
alj06284b
model lj82911
body no 06345b
trim 1822 40x
paint 56813135
Vin tag 82911jh235782
All info would be much appreciated
Ben
result for vin number JH235782
built 8/6/72
sold 6/72
dealer 898
motor JP 160856
trim 40x..black
paint 13135..The lone O ranger
got pics of your car??
No sorry no pics, are you able to tell me if it is an xu1 or just a gtr
Thanks Ben
Its an XU-1 vin number.., and is on my spread sheet as a XU-1, is the car alive???
would like to know so i can update my records
cheers jono
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