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The great debate mark 2

Started by _outer control_ , Apr 19 2009 07:40 PM

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#26 _outer control_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 10:18 AM

[quote name='APL' date='Apr 20 2009, 01:19 AM' post='390285']
And Mr Bean drove a Mini....

Now for the history lesson...

English Version - Vauxhall HB Brabham
Australian Version - HB Brabham Torana

Sterling Moss and Jackie Stewart probably had one those open wheeler things named after them !!

AP
The gun vehicle to have would then have to be a brabahn 2 door
stong bathurst winning body for strength.
unlike the a9x the HB 2 door was lighter than the 4 door.
791 kg for 2door 818kg for 4 door
Just think 79 bhp in 791kg
Enough of history lesson that only proves i can read too but unfortunately i was only 13 when they were new, unlucky for me as to own one would make me a bogan.
Now TA thats different i was 19 then could drive on road and what a colour barbados ,imagine the chick pulling capacity in a light weight 2 door.But then on the HB side if H WAS WITH HOLDEN INSTEAD OF FRAUD IN 1967 the 4 cylinders marketing catchcry would have been called harry hot wheels not little big wheels.But until i get an offer of a brabam 2 door i just keep pulling the chicks with the barbados TA.I rest my case.

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#27 _The Baron_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 01:53 PM

Where does the Kadel fit into this? (Topgear in Africa had one)

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#28 _outer control_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 02:06 PM

Obvious the south africans had good taste too and know quality and want it

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#29 _APL_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 06:02 PM

Thats getting a bit personal APL as i see you have a torry with strap ons {sorry bolt ons.}

Very observant outer control....

Yes it is true that I own one of those models with the plastic bolt on bits, as can be seen in the avator.
But what you don't know is that is just the back up car for when I need to tame things down somewhat.

Gotta love the HB's.

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#30 RIM-010

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 06:31 PM

muzzta had his HB at Toranafest 08 and 09...

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#31 _HB1200_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 06:39 PM

Having only S and SL HBs I am only part Bogan. I do however strive to one day join the ranks of those who know all too well the superiority of the HB Brabham in areas of styling, performance and chick pulling power.

Even Kevin Bartlett spoke of the HB in lowly SL trim and its ability to "get the girls in" Track tests at warwick Farm proved to him that that the HB was clearly a leader in the small car field.

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#32 _APL_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 06:57 PM

HB1200

Just digressing slightly, that footage of KB hammering that Series II Brabham in full race trim and livery still gets the blood rushing........
Great sight seeing that front wheel lifting off the track.

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#33 Collo

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 06:59 PM

muzzta had his HB at Toranafest 08 and 09...

Tim

Muzzta lives 5 mins from me,has a TA.
The only HB at Toranafest 08 was mine. 09 hasn't happened yet...

APL, where can I see this footage of KB in the Brabham?

Edited by slr_v8, 20 April 2009 - 07:12 PM.

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#34 _APL_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 07:10 PM

Well its about time HB1200..
Here I was thinking that I had to defend the mighty HB's honour on my own.

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#35 _NZ Toranaman_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 07:14 PM

Ok you have forced me to reveal about my mates mighty HB.

11.8 second N/A HB and it was a circuit car. It won just about everything it entered from hill climbs to circuit events and was a bit of a legend in these parts, oh it was street registered! erm... it had a mid mounted hemi 265 race engine into a 4-speed and holden banjo diff.

I will try and get some pics of it if you want, I almost bought it but had just bought my LC at the time.

There are several running around here in Christchurch including a potent 3.8 V6 one and a 4.0 V8 lexus powered one which the owner is banging on twin turbos as it wasn't powerful enough.

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#36 _HB1200_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 07:27 PM

Sounds excellent NZ Toranaman,

Please post up the info if you find it :spoton:

I remember searching the net a while ago and finding a nice HB that was run by John Kershaw and Jane Buckman over your way.

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#37 _APL_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 07:28 PM

APL, where can I see this footage of KB in the Brabham?

Sorry slr_v8, I was winding up HB1200 for being a name dropper....

The footage is of of a Brabham, Lotus Cortina and a Camaro battling it out overseas......
Jerry Marshall was the actual driver of the Brabham.

Try this link:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=kDAK4jBKmow

APL

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#38 _APL_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 07:48 PM

Where are you In Control??
Are you conceding that HB's are the best 4 banger??

APL

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#39 Collo

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 07:57 PM

Cheers for the link mate. Thats some awesome racing there.

How bout some forum HB pics? Haven't seen many on here.

Here's mine at Toranafest 08.
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#40 _LC_138_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 07:59 PM

I actually feel sorry for you guys. If only you'd been in a beast like mine you'd forget the HB's and TA's. Best and 4 banger should never be used in the same sentence, they're a waste of time!

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#41 _Smell_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 08:00 PM

Oh yeah....

I've seen some of that race footage before and I've managed to find some additional footage of what I believe to be a red TA.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=CMBXBGcFyao

You've got to watch those TA drivers.

Go the HB...

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#42 Collo

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 08:03 PM

Funny,but not much like a TA.

And yes, GO THE HB.

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#43 _APL_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 08:08 PM

Outer, I thought you said your TA was Barbados not Red...
I don't think much of that modified nose cone - LMAO

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#44 _LC_138_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 08:09 PM

the superiority of the HB Brabham in areas of styling, performance and chick pulling power.

Hahahaha, whoever told you that is clearly delusional! Style, where? Performance, compared to what? Chick pulling power? All I recall around your car at GM Day was wogs..... no chicks!

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#45 Collo

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 08:11 PM

HB looks heaps better than the TA I reckon.

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#46 _APL_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 08:20 PM

That's not very nice LC 138

It was the cold air induction system that attracted the crowd.

Just remember, there are two types of Torana Owners:

1/ Those that own a HB.
2/ Those that wish they did.

And you know your other half wants one !!

PS - Nice car slr_v8, welcome to the inner sanctum.

APL

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#47 _LC_138_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 08:23 PM

That's not very nice LC 138

It was the cold air induction system that attracted the crowd.

And now we know that HB's need mods to turn those pizza cutting tyres.....

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#48 Collo

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 08:25 PM

Hahaha Thanks APL, Good to be here. :spoton:

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#49 _HB1200_

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 08:27 PM

Hahahaha, whoever told you that is clearly delusional! Style, where? Performance, compared to what? Chick pulling power? All I recall around your car at GM Day was wogs..... no chicks!

Ha ha, yeah I know.

The usual crowd of chicks were obviously unable to get too close due to the glare from the chrome. I also think they were scared off by the wolf whistle.

Note to self... remove wolf whistle for next car show.

Cheers