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[xu2308]

We might have to call REDA9X Mulder,he solved one X File

[REDA9X]

I didn't solve anything, all I did was give everyone bits to information I already had, I've known for a few years now. You have to be careful what you say afterall in this world we have become. Like I said, some people know the facts they were not willing to say them however.

[REDA9X]

ok lets deal with the sedan first, from his website it says the following (it's recently been changed);

"Bathurst 1974 saw Brock lead the race by 6 laps at lap 100. Engine troubles forced early retirement due to not following an order by team boss Harry Firth to slow down a couple of seconds a lap. Peter was sacked from Holden Dealer Team for failing to follow team orders.

In 1978 Peter Brock returned to the Holden Dealer Team after 3 years as a Privateer. Team Boss John Sheppard gave Brock the L34 instead of the superior A9X Hatchback, he went on to win the Sandown 500 Enduro, earning his postion as the team's No. 1 driver.

Bathurst 1976 saw Charlie O'Brien and Wayne Negus at the wheel of this car taking it to a top 4 postion.

Only 268 road going L34 Torana's were produced"

Ok, there seems to be some sort of confliction even in what the site says, it's mixing a few cars up.
Yes 74 drove an L34, but it wasn't this one. This car was Bonds car, the one hit at Amaroo Park in 76, that is confirmed, look at AMC 15 page 60. The car is displayed painted as 05 and as an A9X, representing the car Brock drove when he returned to HDT in 78. That car is in Victoria and currently racing in Group C. This car served as a display car in 78, thats it, until it was sold off as the car had been cut and shut by Harry Firth, the new team manager John Sheppard on advice from John Harvey never used the car as a race car.

The hatch, well, it says this;

"The first of the mighty hatchback Toranas. This car was Harry Firths personal daily driver. It then became the homologating test car for the HDT. Peter Brock was often spotted testing the car on public roads at night time."

IT'S not the Firth car, thats in Vic too and the Firth car was never raced. The text has been changed, it used to say the car was raced. The car was painted black by Harry

[REDA9X]

It used to say this on the website
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"Bathurst 1974 saw Brock lead the race by 6 laps at lap 100. Engine troubles forced early retirement due to not following an order by team boss John Shepherd to slow down a couple of seconds a lap. Peter was sacked from Holden Dealer Team for failing to follow team orders.

In 1978 Peter Brock returned to the Holden Dealer Team after 3 years as a Privateer. Team Boss Harry Firth gave Brock this car instead of the superior A9X Hatchback. In this car he went on to win the Sandown 500 Enduro, earning his postion as the teams No. 1 driver.

Bathurst 1976 saw Charlie O'Brien and Wayne Negus at the wheel of this car taking it to a top 4 postion."

[xu2308]

Harry Black Hatchback had Vic Number Plates HF.111
Is it still in Black that Car or a different colour now

[REDA9X]

Oh yes, lots of question marks over a lot of cars. A forum member showed me some pictures of his car and I traced it back and funny how it was apparently sitting in Bathurst museum a few years ago......the forum member owns the real deal, so I wonder where the museum copy got to...

[xu2308]

I think Harry Firth Black Hatchback was Just a 5.0Litre SS and with Engineering Mods,Like S/Diff with Rear Disc Etc's and other stuff it was the First A9X Prototype Car,As Harry says on the HDT DVD they did the test Run at Night in it.
So i Guess it must of Been a 1976 Model SS LX Hatch,as Harry Finished the end of 1977 with HDT

[REDA9X]

It was a 76 hatch yes.

[REDA9X]

I thought Peter returned after Harry left, it was part of his returning he wanted nothing to do with Harry at the time. Not sure about this I just remmeber PB making comments that Harry was gone John Shepperd was there so I returned...

my point exactly, the information supplied on the site was wrong

the car never did the Sandown 500 in 78 either, it did the first round of the championship at Sandown

[xu2308]

It was a 76 hatch yes.

Thanks REDA9X

[xu2308]

I say its pedigree is Holden LOL

[REDA9X]

I took these photos last year at the Bathurst museum.

What is its pedigree?

not sure what you mean there but maybe read the story over the last few pages?

[xu2308]

I thought its Pedigree is Holden,Mostly VK ??????????????