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UD Torana

Started by _osman_ , Mar 21 2006 04:13 PM

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#51 _DocDamage_

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 01:24 PM

Chev type oil filler too.

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#52 TerrA LX

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 10:37 PM

the first of the 253's had them as well. Much prefer flooding the chain with oil than drowning the valve seals on one head.

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#53 _ChevLX_77_

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 10:42 PM

How can anyone tell from that sketch what sort of engine it is. I'm Confused.

because holden never made a V6.so it is a v8 or a DOHC 4 like what was metioned above but i belive it to be an 8.

Edited by ChevLX_77, 20 March 2007 - 10:44 PM.

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#54 _JamesB_

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 01:21 AM

The UF coupe has heavy overtones of the Renault Alpina I think.

It looks like a reworksd Chevrolet Monza to me.

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#55 makka

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 11:06 AM

the first dead giveaway is the exhaust manifold.....

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#56 _Leakey_

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 06:55 PM

Nah, cant see it James? they look totally different.

One is blue and one is white?

What were you thinking man? Jeez.

Nice spot!

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#57 MRLXSS

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 07:16 PM

yeah i picked it was an eight as well, that exhaust manifold looks identical to the ones i use to have on my 253...

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#58 _JamesB_

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 07:19 PM

Fixed ;P

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#59 _bodallafella_

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 08:47 PM

I always though the LX hatch was a rip of of the Chevy Monza but it could be the other way around. The 1975 Monza looks like a rip off of an LH Torana.

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#60 _JamesB_

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 09:07 PM

Actually, I suspect that the hatchback version of the 1971 Chevy Vega was the inspiration for the LX hatchback.

Except for the flow through ventilation slots in the Vega's hatch, I doubt if you could tell the difference between it and a LX/UC hatch.

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#61 _devilsadvocate_

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 10:06 PM

the first dead giveaway is the exhaust manifold.....

Dead give away that it is what?
I think you can only say what it isn't. Looks like the exhaust manifold is a collector for 4 valves.......so its not a v6 or a straight six or a v12 etc.
Yes could be a v8, could be a cross flow straight four........doesnt look much different to the manifold on the sunbudgie. The presence of the back seat passenger suggests a family/responsible type of vehicle for the impending oil crisis of the time.......another leaning towards the four(okay who really cares)......cant imagine them putting pictures of passengers in the back of an a9x.

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#62 _DocDamage_

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 10:31 PM

Perhaps he should've said first clue.

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#63 _Leakey_

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 07:19 AM

Again James, you could not be more wrong..

I mean this one is yellow, totally different from a blue one.

I thinc you nead to cee a gynacologist.

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Great pics mate. I have been on/off searching thru Vega stuff to see
what might be compatible with our stuff.

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#64 _Leakey_

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 11:28 AM

This just in - from our pal BUCKLE.

UD/VA rear end shot.

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- Leakey

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#65 makka

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 12:02 PM

the first dead giveaway is the exhaust manifold.....
Dead give away that it is what?
I think you can only say what it isn't. Looks like the exhaust manifold is a collector for 4 valves.......so its not a v6 or a straight six or a v12 etc.
Yes could be a v8, could be a cross flow straight four........doesnt look much different to the manifold on the sunbudgie. The presence of the back seat passenger suggests a family/responsible type of vehicle for the impending oil crisis of the time.......another leaning towards the four(okay who really cares)......cant imagine them putting pictures of passengers in the back of an a9x.

oh sorry I forgot that responsible people dont drive V8's.
the presence of the backseat passenger would be more to show off the fact that it is a 4 door hatch with space for adults in the back (seeing that its a V8 they are probably on their way to get pissed and do burnouts in some up tight pricks driveway, then drive home drunk).

still looks like a V8 to me
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Posted 22 March 2007 - 12:47 PM

I'm sorry i asked !!!

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#67 makka

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 01:38 PM

dont be sorry, the devil just cant help himself

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#68 MRLXSS

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 01:55 PM

The presence of the back seat passenger suggests a family/responsible type of vehicle for the impending oil crisis of the time.......another leaning towards the four

I'd like to see a 4cyl torana pull around 4 adults comfortably.

Also these pics would have been developed in the mid 70's, due to the extensive amount of design required to create a car. A car is not designed and created it a year.

No doubt the first images of the UC would have had a V8 in the engine bay. The decision not to have V8's in UC's was probably made at the last minute (mid 77) as the petrol crisis was really starting to grip and the new commodore was probably coming along faster than expected.

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#69 _devilsadvocate_

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 03:40 PM

I'd like to see a 4cyl torana pull around 4 adults comfortably.

They did sell the four with four doors..........so I think they had that in mind.

Perhaps they also had in mind moving to a high tec 2L four DOHC like available in cars such as the alpha of the time.......who knows about the dreams of the designers, cant imagine they thought they were going to win Bathurst with a five door model. I think it is most likely a v8 too, however, one needs to keep an open mind.

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#70 _Big T_

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 03:52 PM

^^^ Used to regularly go cruising with my mates in an LC/J (cant remember exactly which) 4 banger with no dramas. Up and down Mount Dandenong not a problem. Same in the my old LX Sunbird (Opel) - towed a trailer with motorbikes and 4 adults up through Healsville easily. So yeah, 4 cycls can definately handle the weight.

Regarding the picture, is it possible the picture is not meant to be representative of anything in particlar? Maybe it was a new design holden were working on?

EDIT - Gee whiz, see what happens when I start a reply and the phone rings. Hit the submit button ten minutes later only to find a similar post has beaten me to it.......

Edited by Big T, 22 March 2007 - 03:54 PM.

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 12:56 PM

Had a brainwave last night, I know they wouldn't have been raced but is anyone able to do a 'chop of a L34/a9x style UD to see what it would be like? if not don't worry it was just an idea i had.

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#72 _Leakey_

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 01:26 PM

Filled in that panel and chucked on the UD tail lights.

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Not really my cup of tea.... but interesting non-the-less.

(thanks again Buckle for all the pics)

ps- note on this clay model, there is a card cut out on the side not seen,
and an LX front end with some sort of angled nose cone. It is not the same
pic as the one with the UC front end IMO.

Edited by Leakey, 25 March 2007 - 01:27 PM.