hawks uc sunbird
#76 _Brad1979UC_
Posted 07 February 2010 - 01:29 AM
dude tolerances vary from each torrie, no one can rly say eg. 'any lower than 2.2156" and it will not clear speed humps'...seriously mate just take what PLEANTY of helpful people are saying to you onboard first, THINK about it, THEN post....there is some valuable pointers i think your missing re: lowering & re: spoilers +&- kit.
My UC looked just like yours (black grille and all [exept it is a factory torana]) but had hotwires and let me also say it would look ghay with just a rear spoiler.
Also take in what Nathan is saying (he has seen MANY UC's), flares = big wheels otherwise it also looks ghay. With that, don't bother with a front spoiler if you dont have flares, IMO it will look unfinished = also ghay.
Now what i think looks good and what anyone else thinks looks good is just preference but its much past that now, personally i think you've got more than enough feedback in this thread to make a decision in regards to flares &or spoilers.
OK now to explain your lowering situation again....
here mine is on STD springs (a loooonggg time ago)
ROUGHLY 1.25" (&5 yrs) later
As heath & I have said no lower with 13" rims or your exhaust will catch on everything.
Anyway, its your car, so you've gotta make the decisions, but you've racked up heaps of opinions (which is what you were after), so go and take it all in, figure out what you want from the car at this point in time THEN post us back, i don't know if its just me, but otherwise im finding that this is all beating around the bush a bit.
Either way enjoy im sure we'll see it at a cruise soon enough
Brad.
#77
Posted 07 February 2010 - 09:34 AM
no scoop and wanted opinions on the spoilers but it sounds like it will look like shit like that
so thats a no as well
from what ive been told ill lower it 1" at the rear and leave the front
then when i get the money for bigger rims ill go from there
#78
Posted 07 February 2010 - 10:16 AM
I would focus on lining up a four speed for the car before you bother about aesthetics - get it driving really nicely and learn the car well, then make it look nice
Edited by Heath, 07 February 2010 - 10:16 AM.
#79
Posted 07 February 2010 - 11:03 AM
Looks okay, but that style of scoop is a no go unless you have a blower, air cleaner or some kind of tall manifolding under it, which you won't have with a six
If you do get a front spoiler, try and get something that sits up higher than the normal off the shelf ones. Your other option is getting a front spoiler which isn't the conventional SL/R/SS type! If you are struggling for ideas, go and look at some chin spoilers on american muscle cars
#80
Posted 07 February 2010 - 11:10 AM
#81
Posted 07 February 2010 - 11:39 AM
#82
Posted 07 February 2010 - 12:42 PM
might see if i can get another uc to kit just too see what its like
this 1 will stay as is i rekon
will vh commodore rear springs fit in it
#83
Posted 07 February 2010 - 01:27 PM
If I feel motivated later on I might do a PS with some flares, but I don't normally go out of my way to create ugly things on photoshop
#84
Posted 07 February 2010 - 01:36 PM
#85 _cruiza_
Posted 07 February 2010 - 01:38 PM
I have seen a few UCs that looked good and I think the reason they looked good was becasue the UC unlike the LX looks like a later model car then the LX and suits commodore style mods over traditional torana mods so if it were me I would be front spoiler side skirts and a rear wing (not spoiler) clean up a all the badges and side moldings for a clean neat appearance, oh and no bonnet scope tinted windows are good and go for bigger better wheels you can fit 7inch wide on the front and 8 on the rear easy with no flares or tyre rubbing issues 245s on the rear and 225 on front
but that is just my opinion
#86
Posted 07 February 2010 - 01:42 PM
those plastic black mouldings are getting taken off as i hate them
the windows are already tinted you can hardly see my l plates through the back screen
#87 _cruiza_
Posted 07 February 2010 - 02:07 PM
#88
Posted 07 February 2010 - 02:13 PM
built one as ive had 3 vh commodores and a vk
#89 _cruiza_
Posted 07 February 2010 - 03:48 PM
just my opinion about early comms if i liked them i would have
built one as ive had 3 vh commodores and a vk
That fine all good here you dont like them I think the VK blue meanie and the VL were great but I have never had any of them bar the VL with a small aero kit nice looking car handled like crap. as I said in my first post it is your car you do what you like I was offering sugestions on what I thought would work well. What ever you decide to do enjoy the process and the people you meet, for those of us who have done a few cars and or had them a few years they become a time capsul of the people and friends we made while owning / building it
I will make a general comment on something I have seen a lot of, and this is NOT directed at anyone in particular
A lot of guys usually young guys get a car and have an idea that XYZ is a great looking mod, which is it might be in certin cars but not necessarly on the car this young bloke has another thing is XYZ might look good and mod ABC might look good but not togetheir. I have seen cars where the guy has looked at the detail of a mod but not how it will fit into the overall plan of the car and how it will be finished.
I make this as a general comment not directed at anyone here
#90
Posted 07 February 2010 - 04:01 PM
if i could pick up a cheap uc shell in good nick i
would have a go at kitting it but otherwise ill
wait till i sell the statesman if i do and then save for
another torana
#91
Posted 07 February 2010 - 04:37 PM
I will make a general comment on something I have seen a lot of, and this is NOT directed at anyone in particular
A lot of guys usually young guys get a car and have an idea that XYZ is a great looking mod, which is it might be in certin cars but not necessarly on the car this young bloke has another thing is XYZ might look good and mod ABC might look good but not togetheir. I have seen cars where the guy has looked at the detail of a mod but not how it will fit into the overall plan of the car and how it will be finished.
Like sticking a chrome mountain out the bonnet of a car that doesn't have chrome bumpers
But it's all kinda subjective isn't it?
#92 _cruiza_
Posted 07 February 2010 - 08:12 PM
Like sticking a chrome mountain out the bonnet of a car that doesn't have chrome bumpers
But it's all kinda subjective isn't it?
I think we all have different tastes which is a good thing, but the point which i was trying to make is you see guys usually young guys who look at one part of a car and modifiy that rather then stepping back and saying what is my goal here what is the finished product I am after and then planning a build to achieve that. The other point was and it was something about the car scene I didnt appriecate at first was how in building a car it becomes a focus which your friend will gather around and from which new friendships will ber found eh buddy mate old friend Heath
#93 _beergut_
Posted 07 February 2010 - 11:21 PM
um don't you mean lower the front leave the rear?thanks and ill say it again no flares
no scoop and wanted opinions on the spoilers but it sounds like it will look like shit like that
so thats a no as well
from what ive been told ill lower it 1" at the rear and leave the front
then when i get the money for bigger rims ill go from there
think your way may look odd unless your irish
#94
Posted 08 February 2010 - 06:45 AM
#95
Posted 08 February 2010 - 05:54 PM
and what will it cost me as im not allowed to drive it until i have it
#96
Posted 08 February 2010 - 09:07 PM
And probably no insurance company will touch you even when you do get a licence
Especially in a 30 yr old car as a P plater
And even moreso if you modify it
Unless you want your wallet annually (thats yearly.. not what you were thinking) raped by Just Cars
Get your parents to insure it and nominate you as a driver
#97 _beergut_
Posted 08 February 2010 - 09:22 PM
yep agreeYour not allowed to drive till you have a licence
And probably no insurance company will touch you even when you do get a licence
Especially in a 30 yr old car as a P plater
And even moreso if you modify it
Unless you want your wallet annually (thats yearly.. not what you were thinking) raped by Just Cars
Get your parents to insure it and nominate you as a driver
but don't just cars say in the application form for young drivers
:drop pants
:bend over
:think happy thoughts?
#98
Posted 08 February 2010 - 09:38 PM
I got my MODIFIED LX Torana insured with full comp for well under $1,000 for regular use, with all modifications listed (and freedom for a lot more!), when I was 18, as far as my insurance company are concerned, they don't even know I have living parents. Whether he wants to take out a policy with his parents or by himself is his choice, but don't suggest that he doesn't have any options!
hawk, call around a lot of companies. Don't bother with JUSTCAR or anything that is only going to insure you for redbook prices. Extended 3rd party may be an option for the short-term as well...
#99
Posted 08 February 2010 - 10:15 PM
He gets these answers
He could have read the many insurance threads and got an idea there
He could get on the phone and asked
I highly doubt anyone will even give him a good idea till he has licence in hand
Ask on a forum... get forum answers
Want the right answer... ring around
Take your chances on the internet and be careful what you ask... simple
Good for you Heath.... but I doubt he has $1k a year to throw about right now
Hence my suggestion about parents... alot do it to save money early on and get some history up
Enthusiasm is one thing... I'm not bagging him
I'm trying to offer suggestions based on experience in the world
Feel free to offer yours too
#100
Posted 08 February 2010 - 11:49 PM
I'm sure Heath has more recent experience at getting insurance on a modified car as an 18 year old than I do, so experience doesn't always come from age - rather from ... er ... experience.
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