it's threads like this that get me motivated to get stuck in and so this kind of stuff myself
the progress is looking great, keep up the good work
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 07:13 PM
wow man, what a great job your doing!!
it's threads like this that get me motivated to get stuck in and so this kind of stuff myself
the progress is looking great, keep up the good work
it's threads like this that get me motivated to get stuck in and so this kind of stuff myself
the progress is looking great, keep up the good work
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 07:16 PM
yes i was at motorvation but how can i impress everyone without a car???
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 11:11 PM
I have a HQ stato i could take the photo of the 1/4 for you... Ill do it tomorrow.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 11:15 AM
I hope thats what your after! If you need any more pics of anything let me know, this car is nice and origional.
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Posted 26 January 2011 - 06:10 PM
Thanks for the photos jabba, I owe you one. I think I should be able to make a template from the front part of the quarter so I should be able to get the shape right.
Rightoh, I have been doing work, honest.
Fixed up the top of the guard (repairs look like crap in the light
Now need to fix up the lower quarter (the old repair was probably the worse one on the car)
Out with the old...
In with the new... I also had to repair the inner part of the quarter as a fair bit of it had rotted away
Then I decided to have some fun. Off to a stag party in a few weeks (going to take the whole weekend) and decided to make something suitable to bring along.
Take one stuffed HQ disc rotor
Do a bit of welding and add a bit of chain...
Didnt have a heavy ball lying around but this should do nicely. Its not sumthing we're going to let him drag around and the chain is short enough that you have to stoop over to carry it, hehehe
Rightoh, I have been doing work, honest.
Fixed up the top of the guard (repairs look like crap in the light
Now need to fix up the lower quarter (the old repair was probably the worse one on the car)
Out with the old...
In with the new... I also had to repair the inner part of the quarter as a fair bit of it had rotted away
Then I decided to have some fun. Off to a stag party in a few weeks (going to take the whole weekend) and decided to make something suitable to bring along.
Take one stuffed HQ disc rotor
Do a bit of welding and add a bit of chain...
Didnt have a heavy ball lying around but this should do nicely. Its not sumthing we're going to let him drag around and the chain is short enough that you have to stoop over to carry it, hehehe
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Posted 27 January 2011 - 06:56 PM
Pretty productive evening (that makes me happy 
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Pulled the petrol tank out, still had a bit more fuel in it than I thought so when I undid the straps I had a bit of a challenge on my hands....
Did that so I could weld up all the holes in the boot (any guesses to how many there were?) at some point this car had an LPG system fitted (my guess it was soon after it was bought). But it is long gone, leaving holes where the mounting points and gas lines were. Also a tow bar had been fitted, leaving mounting holes for that.
Still got a bit of original paint back there
It's amazing how quickly you can weld when you're not worried about it being neat...
What's going to be the easiest way to fix this rain gutter? Should I look for a donor and cut a good one off? Anyone had to do this repair before?
)Pulled the petrol tank out, still had a bit more fuel in it than I thought so when I undid the straps I had a bit of a challenge on my hands....
Did that so I could weld up all the holes in the boot (any guesses to how many there were?) at some point this car had an LPG system fitted (my guess it was soon after it was bought). But it is long gone, leaving holes where the mounting points and gas lines were. Also a tow bar had been fitted, leaving mounting holes for that.
Still got a bit of original paint back there
It's amazing how quickly you can weld when you're not worried about it being neat...
What's going to be the easiest way to fix this rain gutter? Should I look for a donor and cut a good one off? Anyone had to do this repair before?
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Posted 27 January 2011 - 07:19 PM
the parts car should have that and i'm sure mine are good
you want to get a quote on postage from 6111 perth western australia and i'll cut it off and pack/post it for ya?
(with measurements/referance points of course)
you want to get a quote on postage from 6111 perth western australia and i'll cut it off and pack/post it for ya?
(with measurements/referance points of course)
Edited by Quagmire, 27 January 2011 - 07:21 PM.
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:13 AM
the parts car should have that and i'm sure mine are good
you want to get a quote on postage from 6111 perth western australia and i'll cut it off and pack/post it for ya?
(with measurements/referance points of course)
Gee thats bloody good of you Quagmire. According to Australia post Ozzy to NZ for that kind of parcel would be around AU$10-15 (cheapest rate). Send me a PM and I can attempt to use my paypal account to send you some $$$$ for it. Now I really do owe you a beer/trip to perth
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Posted 29 January 2011 - 11:23 AM
40 odd degrees here today
not going to be this weekend
send us a pm with the lenght you want and i'll get on to it
thanks
al
not going to be this weekend
send us a pm with the lenght you want and i'll get on to it
thanks
al
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 06:44 PM
^^ I'll send you a PM tomorrow with the details Al, cheers
Onto a bit more, fixed up a small area in the rear of the parcel tray that was annoying me. I have no idea what I have done to my welder but it is running way better than before, zaps through the welds like soft butter and bugger all splatter, any who...
Decided to strip the rear doors as I want to have them hung when I go to line up the rear quarters.
Here's a few good examples of the crap repairs I have been dealing with over the last few months
The bottom area of the inner frame is pretty poor too, poor repairs and they went to the hassle of using filler on the lot to hide the repairs
Heres where they spread some bog over some surface rust, I dont understand some people...
Its a really bad job, they used a curved piece to do the bottom (should have used a flat piece) and really caked on the bog. Now I'm going to have to fix this (cant buy replacements) for two reasons. 1) In UNZUD HQ doors with no rust in them are almost impossible to find and cost their weight in gold (even doors in any reasonable condition are expensive) 2)statesman rear doors are unique to that model so any chance of finding them in reasonable condition quickly is a no show.
Wish me luck
Onto a bit more, fixed up a small area in the rear of the parcel tray that was annoying me. I have no idea what I have done to my welder but it is running way better than before, zaps through the welds like soft butter and bugger all splatter, any who...
Decided to strip the rear doors as I want to have them hung when I go to line up the rear quarters.
Here's a few good examples of the crap repairs I have been dealing with over the last few months
The bottom area of the inner frame is pretty poor too, poor repairs and they went to the hassle of using filler on the lot to hide the repairs
Heres where they spread some bog over some surface rust, I dont understand some people...
Its a really bad job, they used a curved piece to do the bottom (should have used a flat piece) and really caked on the bog. Now I'm going to have to fix this (cant buy replacements) for two reasons. 1) In UNZUD HQ doors with no rust in them are almost impossible to find and cost their weight in gold (even doors in any reasonable condition are expensive) 2)statesman rear doors are unique to that model so any chance of finding them in reasonable condition quickly is a no show.
Wish me luck
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 07:08 PM
And another quick update as I'm not sure where the next one will be. I really should replace the entire lower skin and the inner with Rare Spare replacements but because they are friggen expensive over here I'm not going to, I'll waxol the lot when I'm done and hopefully it will last a while. Think if I ever find a rust-free set I'll buy them and fit them at a later date.
So, fixing the corners... Lay over a new patch
and cut
Cleaned the frame and loaded it up with deoxidine, primer and sealer, then tacked in the new piece. Then with a hammer and dolly I folded it over.
all done
Haven't finished the other side yet, the corner of the frame needed fixed before I can lay the skin on
So, fixing the corners... Lay over a new patch
and cut
Cleaned the frame and loaded it up with deoxidine, primer and sealer, then tacked in the new piece. Then with a hammer and dolly I folded it over.
all done
Haven't finished the other side yet, the corner of the frame needed fixed before I can lay the skin on
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 07:16 PM
I thought my cars were bad, at least they didnt have all those nasty repairs :S. Your keen thats for sure .
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Posted 19 February 2011 - 08:24 PM
Rightoh rightoh, I have been doing some work on this, just been away a bit lately which has stalled things somewhat.
Got one of the rear doors finished up, patched the skin and with some minor beating should only need a small bit of filler (skin is straight as an arrow except for the bottom repairs)
Been spending a bit of time stripping the remaining doors, all of which have issues...
Both passenger side doors had bog across the entire skin, thats right, the entire F**kn thing. Rear will be fixable but both of the front doors are really stuffed.
RHR door is fairly well dented, plus has this crummy repair along the bodyline which has warped the skin (fun fun)
Here's the drivers door, what a way to fix the lower skin eh.
The frame has been repaired previously but is pretty well toast
So what am I going to do? Well, in my mind, both of the rear doors are fixable, just a fair bit of hammer and dolly work is needed. Front ones are really bad, passenger is dented to buggery with a fair bit of surface rust and drivers is full of holes. 6 months ago I bought a couple of front doors locally because it was a good deal and I thought I could fix them up and sell them off for a profit, well it looks like I'll be needing them myself now. They are more or less rust free (still need some minor repairs) and I've spend a bit of time already trying to get a massive dent out of the drivers door so this looks like to be the most sensible way forward. Stay tuned...
Got one of the rear doors finished up, patched the skin and with some minor beating should only need a small bit of filler (skin is straight as an arrow except for the bottom repairs)
Been spending a bit of time stripping the remaining doors, all of which have issues...
Both passenger side doors had bog across the entire skin, thats right, the entire F**kn thing. Rear will be fixable but both of the front doors are really stuffed.
RHR door is fairly well dented, plus has this crummy repair along the bodyline which has warped the skin (fun fun)
Here's the drivers door, what a way to fix the lower skin eh.
The frame has been repaired previously but is pretty well toast
So what am I going to do? Well, in my mind, both of the rear doors are fixable, just a fair bit of hammer and dolly work is needed. Front ones are really bad, passenger is dented to buggery with a fair bit of surface rust and drivers is full of holes. 6 months ago I bought a couple of front doors locally because it was a good deal and I thought I could fix them up and sell them off for a profit, well it looks like I'll be needing them myself now. They are more or less rust free (still need some minor repairs) and I've spend a bit of time already trying to get a massive dent out of the drivers door so this looks like to be the most sensible way forward. Stay tuned...
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Posted 19 February 2011 - 08:33 PM
You learned to heat shrink yet???
Its easy, fun, and effective.
Cheers.
Its easy, fun, and effective.
Cheers.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 05:47 AM
You learned to heat shrink yet???
Its easy, fun, and effective.
Cheers.
Kind of, am beating the other rear door at the moment and had to heat shrink a spot I had a bit high, I was amazed I didnt screw the whole thing in the process. Would really like a shrinking disc one of these days.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 07:36 AM
why not make your own shrinking disc,heres great instructions on how,
http://allshops.org/...d=9980121727059
mods might like it enough to make a sticky as there is an enormouse amount of body repair info on this site
http://allshops.org/...d=9980121727059
mods might like it enough to make a sticky as there is an enormouse amount of body repair info on this site
Edited by nicko61, 21 February 2011 - 07:38 AM.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 10:23 AM
why not make your own shrinking disc,heres great instructions on how,
http://allshops.org/...d=9980121727059
mods might like it enough to make a sticky as there is an enormouse amount of body repair info on this site
I thought about it, you can buy them online for not too much
ebay
This site is related and pretty awesome too
metalmeetforum
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:54 PM
You learned to heat shrink yet???
Its easy, fun, and effective.
Cheers.
Kind of, am beating the other rear door at the moment and had to heat shrink a spot I had a bit high, I was amazed I didnt screw the whole thing in the process. Would really like a shrinking disc one of these days.
i read mixed reports on discs somewhere here
if you have a oxcy and half a brain
you'll be right
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Posted 25 February 2011 - 06:34 PM
Hmmm, I might struggle for half a brain..... will give it more of a go
This is either an example of me being a tight arse or and example of being 'inventive'. I need to fix up the other frame for one of the rear doors. I could go buy a rare spares part and weld that in but where is the fun in that?
Cut off the lower of one of the front doors
Make a piece for the corner to blend it in. This is my first real attempt to make a complex shape (even though it's not that complex, ya gotta start some where), reasonably pleased but probably should have given it a bit more of a planish.
Matching it up...
And welded in.... just need to dress up the skin
This is either an example of me being a tight arse or and example of being 'inventive'. I need to fix up the other frame for one of the rear doors. I could go buy a rare spares part and weld that in but where is the fun in that?
Cut off the lower of one of the front doors
Make a piece for the corner to blend it in. This is my first real attempt to make a complex shape (even though it's not that complex, ya gotta start some where), reasonably pleased but probably should have given it a bit more of a planish.
Matching it up...
And welded in.... just need to dress up the skin
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Posted 12 March 2011 - 01:29 PM
I now have 4 doors that are made up of more metal that rust, fixed the rear ones that were on it and the ones I had laying around also needed a wee bit of a tickle up before they were ready.
This was a prick to fix, luckily one of the doors I'm scrapping didnt have any rust in this area so I was able to weld an original piece in .
Starting to strip the guards and we find some more appearances of Mr Bog
I knew this area was going to be bad (hmmm I wonder what that area of the nose cone looks like?). The guy I bought it from said it was one of the few areas he attempted to repair when he got it (on behalf of "a mate with a welder"). I'm not going to use this guard at the moment (I will fix it some time in the future), but use one of the ones I have lying around
Sadly they also need a bit of work
But that is no problem...
Had to make up three separate pieces to fix where the rust was, sure I could have bought a Rare Spares patch but where is the fun in that?
In the process of making up one for the other side...
This was a prick to fix, luckily one of the doors I'm scrapping didnt have any rust in this area so I was able to weld an original piece in .
Starting to strip the guards and we find some more appearances of Mr Bog
I knew this area was going to be bad (hmmm I wonder what that area of the nose cone looks like?). The guy I bought it from said it was one of the few areas he attempted to repair when he got it (on behalf of "a mate with a welder"). I'm not going to use this guard at the moment (I will fix it some time in the future), but use one of the ones I have lying around
Sadly they also need a bit of work
But that is no problem...
Had to make up three separate pieces to fix where the rust was, sure I could have bought a Rare Spares patch but where is the fun in that?
In the process of making up one for the other side...
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 12:16 PM
Geez you're doin a great job there.. I'm amazed at the amount of repair required once you started
stripping the paint back.. Well done mate! Did you know the car was this bad underneath when you started?
stripping the paint back.. Well done mate! Did you know the car was this bad underneath when you started?
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 01:48 PM
Geez you're doin a great job there.. I'm amazed at the amount of repair required once you started
stripping the paint back.. Well done mate! Did you know the car was this bad underneath when you started?
Cheers, It's definately turned into a bigger job than I thought. I wasn't expecting the best before I started (knew the plenum was shot), but not the extent of how bad the rest of it was. I've said before that if I had the car stripped in one go (before I started doing it piecemeal) I would have seriously considered scrapping the shell and getting something else. Will put up some new photos in the next day or so. After stripping the nosecone hopefully I've found the last of it.
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 10:08 PM
Love the repairs on the doors. Nice work.
There really musn't be many more panels left to do after these?
There really musn't be many more panels left to do after these?
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 11:55 PM
well al tryed to get that rain gutter out, but i sent the car to the scrappers before he could finish... as i dont live at my own house and the parents hate the fact that i bring "parts cars" home all the time...
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Posted 18 March 2011 - 06:21 AM
Thanks, the nose cone is in pretty bad shape and is going to require a bit of work. After that it's the drivers sill and gutter to fix and then strip the rest of the shell.
No worries, the missis doesnt like the idea of parts cars either. Cheers for the offer of help.
No worries, the missis doesnt like the idea of parts cars either. Cheers for the offer of help.
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