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[Tiny]

You know i really hope it happens!

Read on!

The government wil alienate such a large group of people who've invested Umpteenth millions in their individual cars that it'll create anarchy. I really belive that if ANY government were to restrict the people to this degree that they WILL see blood spilt!

And yep.. this is coming from a disgruntled Shooter. Never forget what they've taken from us. Never!

[Tiny]

I always knew you loved sheep rick
didnt know you loved em THAT much LOL!!!

[Dr Terry]

Hi guys.

Yella SLuR said

"ADR27A came in some time in 1975 (feb from memory) so it only affects the late LH's onwards"

This is not correct, ADR27A was introduced on 1st July '76. It does not affect LH or early LX.

I have also heard about the future introductiuon of tougher requirements for modified cars from engineers, but nothing specific. If it was to apply only to ADR cars, this is all cars made after 1st Jan '70.

Dr Terry.

[MRLXSS]

Better get me a 69 LC GTR!!!! haha i might just have to make the Torana a track car and only use it at the strip..... Would be a shame for not just me but everyone on the road! I love making poeple smile and give me a thumbs up! How boring a road full of bog stock commodores! It will raise the road toll because everyone will be falling asleep thanks to the blandness that will sweep across our roads!

[Dr Terry]

Hi Guys.

ADR27 was introduced for all cars in early '74, before LH release, so it affects all LH. Holden actually introduced ADR27 on their own engines in Aug/Sept 73.

I can't understand your concern about ADR27 only. If they are introducing new rules for modified cars, why would they pick on just 1 ADR.

Dr Terry.

[Tiny]

So what your saying pat is it will be the next newst ADR and so only cars that need to compy with THAT ADR ( so that'll be 2006 or whenever will need to comply!).

And i can see your point if its relating to an ADR.. unless its a state based law that refers to teh date of the new ADR ( Aust Design Rule) as its date of enforcement.

I also tend to agree with you in that we should all be cool and wait and see what the government screw us with.. cause all this assumption and innuendo is really getting us nowehre but frustrated!!

Cheers

[orangeLJ]

ALL OF AUSTRALIA.... bguck oath, thats bad. I like what Tiny said though, shit WILL hit the fan, and big time. See how long the government lasts at the next election if this goes through.

[Tiny]

Not only at an election mate.. there will be protests i belive... They cant get away with taking our rights away and not even telling us theyre going to do it!

I think enough will be enough and this will be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Lets see what happens i say!

[makka]

just my 2 cents, I think if they bring anything in it will have to be for new cars, eg adr 666, which will mean that no modifications can be done to the running gear of that car, or something along those lines.
it would be nearly impossible to enforce a similar rule on older cars, because there is no way of telling if you bolted on a new carb last year or after they brought in the law

[Litre8]

Pretty hard to tell whether you have a remapped chip too...

[dannygtrxu1]

i email my engineer and this is what he replied back to me

No updates on when the code will and may be introduced as yet.

You can view the code on the following link

http://www.dotars.go...b/vsb_ncop.aspx




danny

[Bart]

Guys, im affraid no protest will be of any use. It wont affect any ellection, if it does it will be like a drop of piss in the ocean, why?? because we are a silly rev head minority in the state governments eyes. We are the least of there concern, however because we are a tiny minority they can afford to screw us and scream out in media land, "look how great we are (the state government) we have made the streets so much safer, we have diminished the hoons capability to TERRORISE the streets" they will push this line to make them selves look so fantastic. Its up to the people to realise that hoons in modified cars are a small problem in the whole sceam of things, its carless people, tired people who drive half asleep, speeding, drink driving etc etc which causes most of the accidents, unsafe driving practice.
Any case a hoon can still hoon around in a shit box, this is more likely than an expensive pride and joy.
If someone can write up a letter, and put up a good argument against the change, feed it to poilicians and media??
Remember they will always argue the safety on the streets, and when you talk hot cars, in there eyes they automatically assume youre a hoon and youre dangerous.
A letter should emphisise we are a small number and cause a pooftenth of accidents and fatalities on the road, srewing uss will make 0.00000000000000000000001% of diference on our road.
Another example of Solialist government taking us by the balls, they should get serious and target the majority, stop reducing highway patrol, this will make a real difference, im all for road safety, not just media hype.
They are desperate to colour themselves well as they are in a bit of shit with the tunnel, state budget etc etc.
I believe Alan Jones 2GB radio anouncer helped alot with getting rid of the burocracy hindering the construction and opening of Eastern creek raceway, he was there at open day, seems like a good bloke and willing to help people, but like i said a good argument should be prepared, and should emphisise the government is looking for a scape goat and not fair dinkum.

Edited by Bart, 07 June 2006 - 01:41 AM.

[smeer]

I guess my planned future projects will be unregistered showcars only. Hardly fair when all I'd use it for on public roadways is casual crusing anyway.

Bart mentioned above, the hoons are still going to be getting around in their clapped out stockies, thrashing them and being reckless.
Us who spend countless hours working on our pride and joy are going to want to LOOK after it.. drive it safely not to mention maintain its safety beyond legal requirements.

So it goes.. the older we get, the more rules we have?

Edited by smeer, 07 June 2006 - 01:44 AM.

[Bart]

If we reaaly get serious and pin point the problem, it would be the age of the driver, maturity, not the car he or she drives.
Combine an 21yo male in a stock GTR Skyline, unmodified, capable of 250kms+
Will modified car laws help in this situation?? ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm would be the stste governments response, then spin spin spin.
Law will fail but who cares if you sell the law to the media the right way.
Pat on the back for Morris Iemma, with a crow bar.
I think the roads minister is Rousenvelt or something???? Sounds like a dummy at the best of times iv heard him speak on the tunnel, complete nob. :finger: :finger:
Anyone here a good spokesman or write really good letters??? People power does make a difference sometimes guys and girls