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#101 xu2308

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:50 PM

Came across this article on the net

http://www.townsvill...70511_news.html
this article, and it says that Shut and Cut is not illegal in Australia, if the repair is done to a safe standard, so in safe standard would mean a Licensed Body Repairer doing the job, and if its not illegal in Australia as long as its a safe standard then the law is saying the car is still the car ????????????

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:02 PM

i like that national database of genuine cars idea


Its already going....

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:14 PM

Its already going....


Where at your office you keeping tabs on all the ridgy didge ones

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:15 PM

Came across this article on the net

http://www.townsvill...70511_news.html
this article, and it says that Shut and Cut is not illegal in Australia, if the repair is done to a safe standard, so in safe standard would mean a Licensed Body Repairer doing the job, and if its not illegal in Australia as long as its a safe standard then the law is saying the car is still the car ????????????


So have I got this right, If an Xu1 was cut and shut with an SL for repair then it would be an Xu1 with a SL chassis number, if someone did a body swap then it would be a replica with an SL chassis number etc, if someone swapped numbers then that would be illegal?
Obvious allowance would Holden have supplied blanks and numbers had to be stamped?

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:18 PM

Now this is getting confusing really i thought if you swapped tags and a shell it was illegal

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:24 PM

I wouldnt be too worried about that.

Rares cant make an exact copy of anything.


very well said craig....

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:24 PM

Now this is getting confusing really i thought if you swapped tags and a shell it was illegal


Yes swapping tags and shell is illegal, that article says a shut and cut is not illegal if done in a safe standard, just saying what the article says.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:27 PM

i know of a genuine sunburst met lc xu1 sitting in a garage .it was wrapped around a pole by the old blokes
son over 25 years ago. i have known about this car for since his son bought it .i have offered him money
and im waiting for an answer ....i would have to replace the roof ,floorpan and the left pillars and other bits on
the left side .what will it make this car when i start cutting it up ?


exactly what it started life as...XU1..

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:41 PM

I wouldnt be too worried about that.

Rares cant make an exact copy of anything.

Get your head out of the sand craig some of there stuff is quite good if you ask me
if we didnt have rare spare you would be paying top dollars for second hand panels and parts

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:45 PM

Where at your office you keeping tabs on all the ridgy didge ones


Huh?

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:45 PM

At what point does a repair become a rebody? If I replace the doors, quarters, guards, floorpans, right hand rail/inner guard, roof, bonnet, boot of an XU-1 with the panels off of an LJ S, is it still an XU-1?

(conversational purposes only, I don't see the value in little aluminium tags and date stamps...)

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:56 PM

At what point does a repair become a rebody? If I replace the doors, quarters, guards, floorpans, right hand rail/inner guard, roof, bonnet, boot of an XU-1 with the panels off of an LJ S, is it still an XU-1?

(conversational purposes only, I don't see the value in little aluminium tags and date stamps...)


If the tags say xu1 thats what it is

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:12 PM

:wtf:

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:18 PM

:wtf:

Well it was a stupid question you asked
stick to the 4 doors

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:22 PM

Lol, grumpy old gene transplant !

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:42 PM

All 3 of my Toranas are 2 doors :)

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:46 PM

All 3 of my Toranas are 2 doors :)


and so are my two

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:57 PM

I thought I asked a legit question... Where do we draw the line?

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:59 PM

Well to me if your replacing hanging panels or even the roof once it has been painted its hard to tell

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 05:04 PM

To me,its only original if its never been touched,aside from basic maintenance.

Otherwise its a resto,a semi-resto or a rebody.

Theres nothing wrong with any of them,but its only original once.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 05:18 PM

Only real way of sorting the problem out is to get a register happening of the genuine XU1s and GTRs but thats a minefield. I think until we can do that the best thing that can be done is just to highlight what John said and what I tell people in the market do the check before the cheque. Rant over

This is exactly why I started th GTR & XU1registers on here.
You are much safer including your confirmed numbers and vehicles on one of these lists, that keeping it all secret.
(FYI, the above has been agreed as correct by a number of Police in the game....)
No one can steal your numbers as they are here for all to see, and it is confirmed proof that the car exists (and you have it....)

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 05:58 PM

To me,its only original if its never been touched,aside from basic maintenance.

Otherwise its a resto,a semi-resto or a rebody.

Theres nothing wrong with any of them,but its only original once.


Thats my thoughts exactly Graig .

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:01 PM

As soon as you start messing with doing a cut and shut or removing the left hand chassis rail/skirt I think it throws serious doubt on the car in question, good repair illegal or not doesnt matter. l could agree to the left chassis rail etc being removed etc if it was a well documented car ie one that was on a register before the big hit that neccesitated the rail etc being replaced.

Cheers Dave

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:05 PM

Thats my thoughts exactly Graig .


Interesting maybe we should be looking at how the Americans class their cars. I think they may be a little ahead of us. Full resto or not if a car retains many of its components engine, head, gearbox, diff etc they are classed as suvivor cars.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 07:03 PM

Lol.... You serious? Look to the americans for confirmation. Lol, americans are frOckin idiots..... Agree with them or they invade your country.... And we have oir own people over aiding their idiocy? If your brother/sister/friend was killed in afhganistan, would you not sit there and ask youreself, WHY?......




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