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#76 Shiney005

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 09:18 PM

It is going great Mat. Love your work.



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Posted 01 February 2015 - 09:52 PM

thanknyou shiney, is going well and fun.. so far!

it ain't going to ever be a show'n'shine, it's just a daily driver that i want to drive like frigg'n YESTERDAY!

 

and, am thinking of re-naiming thread "how to budget build a tory in a tent" ;) haha



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 11:07 AM

worked on second rear flare cut today

 

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this time, didn't leave to chance..

cut off leaving more than what need to bend over, so can easily/precisely cut off flush later

 

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our pesky dual layer again. (nipped into about 2 mm)

 

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recessed into/off first layer of welded dual layer (that cant nip off) so can go "one layer" flush

 

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sweet!

 

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ran angle grinder along so is flush

 

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yippee!! two rears done

 

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and other side (image flipped) for comparison 

 

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not bad.

did't have physical template to replicate, just estimated. am quite happy (read: lucky)  :)



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 11:16 AM

note for anyone with limited resources/means like me,

if you expose bare metal and are are outside getting moisture, prime/protect surface to protect from rust! can always EASILY sand off later if need to work/weld

 

or can end up like i did with more work to do.

took off door hinges exposing bare metal, and took no time at all to rust up and sucked to remove.

 

 

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 11:39 AM

Just a question, should you have rust converted and cleaned/primed that second skin you folded over? Being rusty and now in a join, I could imagine it's not going to stay good for too long.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 11:39 AM

Nice work well done, welding to go now

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 12:36 PM

right you are liam, but (to be honest)  ..have, um,  kinda run out of money for rust converter (and few other things could use nowish) till next week

but couldn't resist doing guards. (found exciting, did!)

so.. have just covered over to protect for now



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 12:46 PM

cheers danny :) 

 

have been warned welding from below is not pleasant.

..thinking of jacking side of car to put on some sort of angle,so as to weld without being 'upside down/beneath'.

??not sure. haven't put deep thought into that being an actual practicality.

 

reminds me, haven't bought welding wire even yet. another thing to add to my list of my want/needs.

 

who would of thought restoring a car would be so expensive?

who !!?

 

haha



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 12:54 PM

liam, forgot to add

as is easy to unfold/refold the thin metal, i didn't let the thought of having to do so from stopping me from folding over to see how it looked. just HAD to see how it looked ;)



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 12:57 PM

Looks good Mat. When you can afford some money for rust converter it probably wont hurt to drizzle some in there. Might be able to tip it down from inside the boot. The Ranex brand from Bunnings works well.



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:07 PM

howdy mick :)

was thinking of doing that previously to the whole cars innards, even drilling holes to pour everywhere! 

but the supercheap brand i bought said i had to wash off, so put that thought aside i did.

 

would be rapped if told "frOck it, better to do than not", or if your ranex brand is ok to leave on.

are many, many things/tricks i just don't know, unfortunately



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:27 PM

was thinking of doing that previously to the whole cars innards, even drilling holes to pour everywhere!

 

That's a good idea if using a rust "preventative" like fish-oil (or a modern equivalent), but as you said, some rust "converters" have acid that needs to be neutralized.

 

if you expose bare metal and are are outside getting moisture, prime/protect surface to protect from rust! can always EASILY sand off later if need to work/weld

 

There is such a thing as weld-through etch primer too, but I haven't bought any for decades so not sure if you can even still get it (or how many arms and legs they'd want for it)?

 

It can be used when welding two sections together (like the bonnet hinge reinforcement plates to inner guards) so you can prime each before assembly. You'll still burn a bit back off near the welds but it's better than having two bare metal panels stuck together (thanks Holden).

 

yippee!! two rears done ~ did't have physical template to replicate, just estimated. am quite happy (read: lucky)   :)

 

I don't think luck had much to do with it, like Ryan from WCC keeps going on about... 6 P's (Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance)!

 

You do nice work Mat, I reckon Ruts would be happy to put his name to that!



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:59 PM

Good advice on the rust converting/prevention. I just did this job myself and converted using an expensive, but good converter from a panel supply shop. I have also used Ranex and it works well, as long as you neutralise the acid before continuing. Just follow the instructions.

 

I bought weld-thru primer (UPol brand, green can - copper rich so the welder can arc) from the same panel supply shop (Supercheap, etc won't have it in my experience) at $23 a can - but it's bloody good stuff. 

 

I wire wheeled the surface rust off, converted, neutralised, then hit with weld-thru primer. I then primed again form inside the wheel arch/boot and will seam seal the weld sections from inside when the Epotech 408 has been laid down. Not saying that's all the right way, just how I did it.

 

Also, I have seen guys push the (stripped) body shell onto its side on a bed of tyres, but that can be dangerous if not propped up right. I just welded upside down, and covered myself properly before lighting the torch, so to speak. At least being outside, the fumes can blow away easier. :-)

 

Top job, especially as you're new to it and outside! 



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 05:48 PM

dat's the two rears now done, andy :)

 

ah, fish oil, saw that next to the stuff i bought. cheap to for bulk.

think i will do that, ...as chopped off metal here and there and found rust aplenty underneath.

 

(only place i don't think has rusted is under that 'wheel well' thick goo. bright sparkly under that, even after 37 years. not a bad effort)

 

as for cut guards, i think tip hat time to ruts, and others, who put up step by step pics for people to use.

have no doubt would of chopped thru too many layers here and there and not left myself anything to work with

(..and just maybe.. not known how to merge the two sheets together easily and thought, "hey, bog 'll just fill it!")


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Posted 04 February 2015 - 05:54 PM

I just grabbed some 20x3 flat bar and bent it to the shape of the well and welded to the internal skin cut the protruding piece and welded it up, smooth as and a bit more compassionate to tyres if they make contact.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 05:59 PM

might just buy myself that weld thru process/brand you've tried/tested , sam.

seems better than doubling up on work, as i've done with the temp prime. 

(and still have fronts to do cut/expose.)

 

hadn't heard the bed of tyres trick, but had heard of the two mattresses trick ;)

think will end up just making sure well and truly covered up before do!! ha



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 06:04 PM

heya liam, is exactly what i plan to do with the fronts! 

might of been your pics? i saved/reviewed that showed me how.

invaluable.

not tyre cutting death traps ;) 

 

waiting to see how gentle/rounded the rears are after welding and grinding.

might end up runnig a bar as well 



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 07:48 PM

scrap that.

WILL be doing flat bar (with rounded edges) to rears as well.

too good/safe to pass up. big cheers for mentioning, liam



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 07:56 PM

Please don't get me wrong mate. Absolutely nothing wrong with what you are doing, I was just concerned that if you didn't address the surface rust before welding, it could potentially rust through and/or ruin your paint. Id hate that to happen to you.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:01 PM

no stress, knew exactly what meant. very brown under those panels, hadn't attended to in any way.

will indeed be doing, but too much fun to smack with hammer and see what result was!



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Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:51 PM

Too easy then mate. I myself have gotten carried away from.time to time.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 09:55 PM

darn easy to do when working on a project that's exciting am finding  :driving:



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Posted 06 February 2015 - 12:05 PM

side mirrors,

was looking for options, someone pointed out xb? mirrors look sweet. i thought so too,

..but trying to avoid going down that blasphemous path.

i searched, and came across these,

 

new, cheaper, (chrome if want,) and.. are NOT a Ford product.

(i love some fords, just not putting ford on my tory! ;) )

and are smallish, which i want, only

 

http://www.ebay.com....tm/390970519599

 

 

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anyone tried these??



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Posted 06 February 2015 - 03:00 PM

The "Old School" ones on the same page are only $5 dearer and they look just like the standard ones.

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Posted 06 February 2015 - 05:22 PM

for me, not going the old school ones.

 

and the other type will closely match these (close enough anyways, and are small.. 4" x 6")

..without the serious price tag of slr reps.

 

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thinking of getting the chrome ones, and painting main part black, like above.

 

am far from this stage to be worrying about, but came across them in my searches



(main part closely matches, stalk not so much)






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