Great 41cc size Brian,
and you still have the open chamber look.
http://www.gmh-toran...e-2#entry947166
Posted 06 June 2016 - 06:19 PM
Great 41cc size Brian,
and you still have the open chamber look.
http://www.gmh-toran...e-2#entry947166
Posted 07 June 2016 - 08:41 PM
Great 41cc size Brian,
and you still have the open chamber look.
http://www.gmh-toran...e-2#entry947166
Posted 07 June 2016 - 08:57 PM
Oh, sorry Brian,
I jumped the Gun, but you will have no Valve to Piston issue's then.
That other head look's good still in the chamber area, as I achieved 44cc at 100 thou shaved.
Posted 08 June 2016 - 12:57 PM
Nice build!!
I have done the same... had the blue motor built for a while but its finally in and just doing the small stuff now.... Mine is out of a VC commodore and has come together nice....
Always looking forward to the start up...
Cheers
Posted 12 June 2016 - 05:46 PM
Posted 12 June 2016 - 07:54 PM
Thank's for the update Brian,
the thing's you have to do for a great outcome.
Like button for the dremel work
Posted 12 June 2016 - 07:58 PM
Posted 19 June 2016 - 01:34 PM
Posted 19 June 2016 - 01:42 PM
Well done
Posted 19 June 2016 - 01:48 PM
Should have a some poke,
will be an eye opener for sure, once the rev's get up.
Posted 19 June 2016 - 04:36 PM
Posted 19 June 2016 - 04:56 PM
Posted 19 June 2016 - 05:59 PM
Well started her up today, have set the timing at 16 static at this point , with the modified dizzy in it, max advance will be 30-32, so should be close, oil pressure is a little high at 60-65, I will see how that goes, might need to drop it back a bit it, running on 15-40 mineral oil,
I wouldn't be worried about dropping it, it shouldn't rob much horse power.
Did you space the relief spring in the pump or is it tight clearances?
Posted 19 June 2016 - 07:56 PM
I wouldn't be worried about dropping it, it shouldn't rob much horse power.
Did you space the relief spring in the pump or is it tight clearances?
Posted 19 June 2016 - 08:33 PM
I'd leave the spacer out if it isn't needed.
Posted 25 June 2016 - 07:13 PM
Posted 04 October 2016 - 05:11 PM
Posted 04 October 2016 - 08:18 PM
Thats a really impressive gain from essentially just a capacity upgrade, and a bit of unshrouding of the valves I suppose (bigger bore).
Some may scoff at the figures but I bet it goes quiet well.
Posted 04 October 2016 - 08:58 PM
Bigger cam too isn't it Muzzy ?
Posted 05 October 2016 - 05:02 AM
Torquey little bugger isn't it? Looks like the perfect daily driver.
I'd be interested in seeing the difference (if any) that a 500 Holley on a modded manifold makes. Let me know if you want to run one on the dyno and I'll send it up to you.
Posted 05 October 2016 - 09:44 AM
Not bad for a single carb 202 daily driver. Based upon factory published SAE Gross versus rear wheel dyno figures I've seen for other stock GMH products (mainly V8's) I'd say you are looking at a ballpark 190hp SAE Gross (or GM1 test in GM speak). A stock HT-HQ or LH 253/4.2L high comp engine is 185hp@4400rpm SAE Gross and you are bettering that. With a bit more sorting of fuel and timing you may easily crack 200hp which is what GM SAE Gross rated the 307 we got in HK-HG. As Bomber says it probably goes really well, especially if you have a 6cyl manual diff in it still (like a 3.36) and 13" wheels, will go like a rocket! The 4.2L versions mainly had 2.78 or 3.08 rear axles.
Posted 05 October 2016 - 02:06 PM
Gm figures are actually more overstated than that .Not bad for a single carb 202 daily driver. Based upon factory published SAE Gross versus rear wheel dyno figures I've seen for other stock GMH products (mainly V8's) I'd say you are looking at a ballpark 190hp SAE Gross (or GM1 test in GM speak). A stock HT-HQ or LH 253/4.2L high comp engine is 185hp@4400rpm SAE Gross and you are bettering that. With a bit more sorting of fuel and timing you may easily crack 200hp which is what GM SAE Gross rated the 307 we got in HK-HG. As Bomber says it probably goes really well, especially if you have a 6cyl manual diff in it still (like a 3.36) and 13" wheels, will go like a rocket! The 4.2L versions mainly had 2.78 or 3.08 rear axles.
Edited by STRAIGHTLINEMICK, 05 October 2016 - 02:08 PM.
Posted 05 October 2016 - 04:01 PM
Mick, I'd say you pretty much confirmed GM and GMH GM1 figures are right other than the stock red 202. In the stuff I've seen rear wheel hp usually is ballpark 2/3 of the GM1 test for a manual car. For the XU1 120hp rear wheel and 190hp GM1, that is close enough to 2/3 allowing for individual dyno variances. Same with the HT GTS350 manual, 200 rear wheel hp is 2/3 of 300hp. The mid 15's for a manual HT are road tests from specially prepared GMH cars, a properly tuned HT GTS350 will do high 14's but that info never made it to Press in the 70's. It was never covered properly until AMC magazine tested a Survivor car about 6-7 years ago, that car still even had its original clutch in it when tested, it was that original.
Remember the GM1 test is performed at full throttle using lab quality fuel, controlled air pressure of 29.92" Hg, 60degF ambient temperature, running with exhaust manifolds into the dyno's exhaust system, no fan, alternator freewheeling, optimum spark advance and optimum fuel settings. So the engine is able to produce as much power as it ever could.
Posted 05 October 2016 - 04:29 PM
Posted 05 October 2016 - 07:52 PM
Mick, I'd say you pretty much confirmed GM and GMH GM1 figures are right other than the stock red 202. In the stuff I've seen rear wheel hp usually is ballpark 2/3 of the GM1 test for a manual car. For the XU1 120hp rear wheel and 190hp GM1, that is close enough to 2/3 allowing for individual dyno variances. Same with the HT GTS350 manual, 200 rear wheel hp is 2/3 of 300hp. The mid 15's for a manual HT are road tests from specially prepared GMH cars, a properly tuned HT GTS350 will do high 14's but that info never made it to Press in the 70's. It was never covered properly until AMC magazine tested a Survivor car about 6-7 years ago, that car still even had its original clutch in it when tested, it was that original.
Remember the GM1 test is performed at full throttle using lab quality fuel, controlled air pressure of 29.92" Hg, 60degF ambient temperature, running with exhaust manifolds into the dyno's exhaust system, no fan, alternator freewheeling, optimum spark advance and optimum fuel settings. So the engine is able to produce as much power as it ever could.
I had a metallic blue HK 307 auto 3.36 with 34000 miles when i was 21 yrs old ,it was rated at 210hp and it did 16.6 1/4 mile at Castlereagh which was a second faster than those dumb road testers,then i modified the engine and fitted a 4spd and did wheel spinning 14.7s .I remember calculating 220hp using the weight shifted hp formula which would be pretty close to rwhp.
Those were the days when a street meet was racing on a Sunday night not far from my place .
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