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#26 REDA9X

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:25 PM

Nope, HDT used road cars for promo cars. 35 years has gone by, anyone can swing a gun over a car in 35 years and give it a coat of paint.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:29 PM

^ I was thinking the same Al, maybe the promo hatch? Pretty sure there is a thread about it somewhere here although I cant the details or ownership.

Found the link. Looks like you Taswegians are all over it anyway :D

http://www.gmh-toran...rs/page__st__50

Will be interesting to see how this thread unfolds.......

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:14 PM

Nope, HDT used road cars for promo cars. 35 years has gone by, anyone can swing a gun over a car in 35 years and give it a coat of paint.


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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:18 PM

: (10 July 2012 - 08:39 PM)i have a G&MPA hatchback a9x it has mhdt paint under the now white paint job can anyone help me identify wether it is the 78 bathurst car as i am certain it is

you can't...i have it locked downstairs in my mansion in jutland parade dalkieth...

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:21 PM

Racecars have chassis #'s , ID markings ,obvious signs of their heritage and log books ... not to mention photos


Put up or shut up ... lets see it

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:00 PM

:useless:

shagsdrags
get the pics up of ya beasty, we would love to see a GMP&A Hatch

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:27 PM

Probably best not to bring vegetables into the lions den if you don't want to get chewed up and spat out. Try bringing raw meat. It might save a limb or two.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:00 PM

Al, as far as I am aware, you have been informed previous to visiting this forum that your car is not an ex-HDT car, or a race car at all.
All the race cars that went through HDT are known.

Should you believe you have evidence to contradict this, feel free to post it here for all to see and post extensive pics of the car.
It wouldn't be the first time another car is being lauded as the real deal, but I'm told your car has features which preclude it from being any of these.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:01 PM

: (10 July 2012 - 08:39 PM)i have a G&MPA hatchback a9x it has mhdt paint under the now white paint job can anyone help me identify wether it is the 78 bathurst car as i am certain it is


Can't be I have both of the 78 Bathurst winners at my house :-)

Edited by Potta, 10 July 2012 - 11:02 PM.


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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:15 PM

Read the question I asked .
We all know there was 33.
Where are the 33?
I don't want to know what I already know.
I read the posts that's why I asked the question.
You must know the Bowden's.
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41 A9X GMP&A shells........as per the post by REDA9X.....

Not of much more value but this is my take on the race cars.

Not all GMP&A "shells" are A9X, GMP&A = General Holden Parts & Accessories......i.e.........spare parts.

The A9X shells were standard GMP&A completed shells removed off the end of the body line and had the "Patch" installed. These shell were then made available to the race teams. Race teams received cars in all sorts of completed stages, from bare shell to rolling car completed with interior.

What is interesting is the MC7 G70 on the plate of this particular car.

Correct, GMP&A shells existed that were not A9X-spec.........
I agree that it is very interesting tat this car appears to have this plate which signifies factory production.....race shells did not get this......
One and only one road going A9X is known, factory-fitted with the T10.......it is a sedan, I believe......it will be very interesting should this turn out to be another......
the T10 was not a production gearbox, only a homologated part......a minimum number needed to be produced for supply, but need not be fitted to road cars, hence only the single example purportedly being produced.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:33 PM

^ Damn, so my 78 Bathurst winning UC SL/T is a fake?

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 12:07 AM

actually Grant, they all had tags and the sedan you talk of isn't a factory T10 fitted car though it does say it on the tag. T10 was dealer fitted

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 01:02 AM

41 A9X GMP&A shells........as per the post by REDA9X.....

Correct, GMP&A shells existed that were not A9X-spec.........

Grant..

Do we know how many GMP&A --- LX shells where produced?

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 06:35 AM

Thanks Mick, I think I always get that wrong.
As for total GMP&A shells of all types, not sure but here must be details in the archives somewhere..........
And any NASCO LH shells still around at the changeover would have become GMP&A shells.......

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 06:51 AM

actually Grant, they all had tags and the sedan you talk of isn't a factory T10 fitted car though it does say it on the tag. T10 was dealer fitted

Factory stuff-up with the stamped plate?
Funny that Holden even had the stamp. No other dealer fitted T10 A9X seems to have a stamped plate for what was a dealer fitted accessory. Must have been a Friday job.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:06 AM

Stamp left over from HQ350 with Muncie ?

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:44 AM

This is what I think is the GMP&A part # stamped into th RH chassis rail.
I'm having trouble resizing the few other pics?

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 11:33 AM

Factory stuff-up with the stamped plate?
Funny that Holden even had the stamp. No other dealer fitted T10 A9X seems to have a stamped plate for what was a dealer fitted accessory. Must have been a Friday job.

Stamp left over from HQ350 with Muncie ?

Every "option", whether available or not had an option code.
So the code for The T10 existed but wasn't used for Torana.....and the code was stamped using individual letters/numbers........

Maestro, could you get the owner to place some paper over that and rub it down. The pic isn't great but I think it's more the condition of the pressing.
OR........put a big magnet underneath, paper on top and sprinkle some iron filings......

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 12:38 PM

I don't think thats a factory stamping, are you able to tell us what it says?
I'm trying to work out where exactly that is on the rail, can I assume the curved bit I see at the top of the picture is the hole the pollution canister would sit over?
Interesting colours there

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 05:56 PM

by the way, the PSN you quoted as being a rare GMP&A one of 3 in blue belongs to a Sunbird, well done

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 06:13 PM

^ Damn, so my 78 Bathurst winning UC SL/T is a fake?


maybe not Big T
going off shagdrags car

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 07:54 PM

Theres a GMP&A a9x in ballarat. Ex racer and currently raced in historics. You blokes would know it and no doubt the owner as he has quite a few toranas of very very interesting heritage.... Racer is the ex Dooley car apparently. I have pics of the tags and car but wouldnt want to post them without checking with the owner.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:12 PM

This is what I think is the GMP&A part # stamped into th RH chassis rail.
I'm having trouble resizing the few other pics?

Seen a lot of Torana's and Holden's over the past 35years but that doesn't look like any factory stamping.
Looks more like someone had a set of number stamps and over hit the hammer on thin unsupported steel.
Clear in focus pictures rather than the UFO type images might help or hinder your cause

Edited by LXSS350, 11 July 2012 - 08:14 PM.


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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:13 PM

not in Marlboro colurs is it?

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:21 PM

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