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[hainzy]

not in Marlboro colurs is it?

Yep sort of.. With a number 18 on the side..

[lx308]

Industrial disease...

[REDA9X]

L31 Mc7 G70 is on the tags which list it as a GMPA shell makes it a very special UC Sunbird and i have seen tags ,....... is following up as i understand.????????????????????????

Wayne, you didn't see the conversation last night in the shoutbox and the PSN quoted, not to mention race shells don't have PSN's and i didn't say UC Sunbird I said Sunbird.

[REDA9X]

In reference to the car you are talking about no one is laughing at all.

[sagman]

I understand that there were GMP&A shells that people could get as a replacement which were in fact "complete with interior, etc" , so just because a car has a GMP&A tag does not mean it was a race car ......... remember GM Parts & Accessories .......... does not = race car in every instance as there are other GMP&A shells for different models that have only been road cars.

Laz

[dattoman]

Probably none
If the tags are anything like the earlier NASCO tag where they just featured the word PRIME and no details... since the shell came with no mechanicals

GMP+A racecar shells that were allocated to teams would have had the team owners name on the tag wouldn't they ?
I've seen a couple and trying to find the pics but I recall seeing the name FORBES (I think) on tags before
So wouldn't a shell earmarked for HDT be so marked aswell with something to distinguish who got what shell as they came off the line ?

[REDA9X]

The issue is there seems to be a few of these popping up of late. When you come onto the site, post in 3 different areas about having a car, don't answer anyones questions, won't provide any proof and then come out with a big statement like "i have a G&MPA hatchback a9x it has mhdt paint under the now white paint job can anyone help me identify wether it is the 78 bathurst car as i am certain it is" cosidering the Brock Bathurst 78 car is in the Bowden collection and has a very well known history, then how can you expect to be taken seriously? And people wonder why I'm always suspicious, especially considering recent events. I'm always happy to help people with Identifying cars, and there are a few people on here who actually do have race shells who I have helped, but if you want help, then help yourself and supply whats needed for a proper ID. There is no benefit to me telling you you don't have a car , I'd rather discover a new car than bullshit someone.
Add the comments in the shoutbox like "I've done 2 weeks of research and theres nothing I don't know about GMP&As" and "does J590851 ring a bell" (which turned out to be a Sunbird), what do you honestly expect the reaction to be?
Datto to answer your question, no, the GMP&A race shells (the 33 we refer to) were not allocated to specific teams from the factory, as in they were all the same and shipped out in the same fashion as a road car effectively. Yes, there is a car with B.Forbes on the tag, but that is the Le Mans car which is not part of the 33 rolling shells. There were others that had other things on tags, but again these were not generally part of the 33 race shells.
As I've tried to point out to people in the past who have made claims of having certain cars, not all cars raced in Group C were one of the 33 GMP&A race shells. There were other GMP&A shells supplied to teams, and some teams used road cars. Good examples would be all of the A9X sedans raced in Group C. Whilst most of these were GMP&A shells, NONE were GMP&A race shells.
I certainly would not be going off a tag alone to identify a car when it's a fact there are a few cars out there with tags claiming to be something they are not.

[enderwigginau]

Well said Nathan.
BTW, if the ex-owner of your recovered A9X was paid out by his insurance company, he can go jump.......if the insurance company come looking it's a different story, but they're more likely to want to come to a more mutually-agreeable solution........

Grant..

[REDA9X]

Rollo, thanks for the support.

Cruiza, Bob Forbes was a special case. Bob was a close friend of Mike Prowse who was the production manager on the line at the time, Mr A9X people have referd to him as.
Bob had four cars (hatches), two for touring cars and two for Le Mans. Three of these cars still exist, one of the touring cars is LONG gone.

Bo Seton was sponsored by McGrath Holden, so he would get his shells through there while Bob Forbes on paper got his through Suttons Homebush.

Bo had two cars, one was raced the other was a spare. The spare was never used and turned into a road car, the race car was also turned into a road car. I did see it around still in it's colours 20 years ago, but I'm not 100% sure of where it is now. Perhaps it did go to NZ but I don't know why it would have Forbes on the tag.

I suspect though you could be thinking of the 79 Janson car which was one of the Forbes Lemans shells sold to Janson when LeMans fell through and Forbes went to Camaros. It was later hill climbed and all yellow, but it still had it's cage in it 20 years ago and it's one of the more original cars around.

[myss427]

Red, there is a white Bo Seton hatch here in Canberra as a road car, I'm sure its the spare car that was never raced.

[REDA9X]

Yep thats the one I mentioned, gregs car

[Collo]

Red, I'm trying to PM about this car you but it says you can't receive any.

[Collo]

Posting for the OP