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[rodomo]

I'm doing the same job on mine. What size hole are you drilling for the plug welds? I'm using 8mm

[madtoranajzedded]

Hi Maz,
Yeah great welder. Plug welding I set it to around your markings, butt welding old metal to new is about half that.
UPol copper weld through primer. I still like to drill out hole where primer is to get fresh metal for plug weld. I soon learnt that you may think you've done a good plug weld but it pops apart. Theres a few tips in doing good strong ones i've worked out.

Hi Clay, I was looking at the same price $1000 7 years ago when I found this one second hand with helmet, trolley gloves, apron, magnets etc for $600 and it had only been used to build a bench.


Marty

I got mine from adel tools also..ive been using the
Zinc weld through but not for the holes,just for the
back of the panel and around hole just to stop the
rusting.keen to try the copper as the zinc takes a good
24hrs before you can weld as it will just scratch off.

I drill my holes to 5mm and when i plug they end
up 8mm.try a couple on 5mm marty doing circular
motion and see what you think.

Cheer maz

Edited by madtoranajzedded, 18 April 2020 - 11:48 PM.

[claysummers]

Bit slack I suppose but I use the zinc, spray on, clamp and drill 8mm hole well in to rear panel then weld dead centre. The zinc will melt in the weld pool and protect the weld. Exposed paint will often ignite but just squirt more on when cool.

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[sibhs]

I drill 8mm in my welding side then use a 5mm to drill part way into receiving metal. Sometimes I drill 5mm all the way through and even put a weld on the other side to be sure.

I was plug welding 8mm holes straight onto receiver and really giving it a good filling then noticed some of them popping apart. Thats why I'm very cautious now and making sure.

Circular is the go! Quite satisfying getting a full flat weld hey Maz?  Those that don't play with metal or paint are missing some very rewarding experiences - a lot of shit ones too. HaHa

 

Marty

Edited by sibhs, 19 April 2020 - 01:15 PM.

[sibhs]

Focused on the left hand front guard that needs the most work. Replaced the rusted top sections and made up a piece for the top corner near door. This bit is tricky due to 3 panels all aligning in the one area. I seem to do work on an area then leave it for a while. Each time going back and improving the result. This area is getting close but I will do a bit more manipulation later.

 

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[liswar2]

Hi Marty,
Good to see your covid-19 down time is going to a good cause.
Stay safe warren

[gad05]

Love your work Marty.

l always learn so much from your posts.

Great to see your dedication in restoring these great little cars.

 

Cheers Graham.

[madtoranajzedded]

I drill 8mm in my welding side then use a 5mm to drill part way into receiving metal. Sometimes I drill 5mm all the way through and even put a weld on the other side to be sure.
I was plug welding 8mm holes straight onto receiver and really giving it a good filling then noticed some of them popping apart. Thats why I'm very cautious now and making sure.
Circular is the go! Quite satisfying getting a full flat weld hey Maz?  Those that don't play with metal or paint are missing some very rewarding experiences - a lot of shit ones too. HaHa
 
Marty

Thats happened to me once too Marty.on the inner panel
the lower front guard welds to (below flutes) happened
when then surface was not sanded to clean metal and
there was abit of primer there.i only picked it up
because i wasnt happy with it and replaced it..

Love it when its flat with good penetrating welds mean
more time to do other areas than grinding grinding
grinding .the speed that your going i reckon you will
b flowing some jam come nxt summer..i like the color
you have chosen Sally.shes going to look beautiful.

[sibhs]

Evening All

 

Yesterday being Sunday is my work in the back workshop, not the front garage and no welding grinding day.

I did a bit more on the heater box assembly. Here's some of the progress pictures so far.

 

Stripping the box and finding it in pretty good shape. Getting that fan off was a struggle and I left the motor bolts in position because I know they're a bitch too.

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Paint stripping the bottom

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Giving the top a clean and rust blast.

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One of the square fan cover bolt holes had rusted out. This is a new piece of metal I drilled and filed square and then welded in position. If you don't fix this you'll have trouble tightening the fan cover nuts.

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These are counter sunk so used the ball peen hammer.

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The fibreglass lug had busted off so that got Araldited back on.

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The flap was re-zinced so I replaced the tape. I found a plasterer tape to be very similar in feel.

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New material was required and that carpet you cover 4wd drawers and speaker boxes seems a good match.

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Re-zinced the base.

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Pulled apart the motor and cleaned it all out.

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Checking out how it goes back together against another set-up.

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Lubed up and testing the flap operation.

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I've tested the fan operation and direction is correct. Painted the motor zinc colour but left the cool cloth tape as is. I just need to sort out the heater core and fit foam to all the flaps and stuff and she'll be ready to be wrapped up and put away.

 

Marty

[claysummers]

Job well done. What’s your zincing process Marty?


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[sibhs]

Hi Clay,

clean-up the part first. Wire brush small bits then drop them off at the zinc platers. 

 

Then pic them up before they lose anything.

 

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[claysummers]

Thanks. Thought you were doing it at home.


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[sibhs]

Thanks. Thought you were doing it at home.


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I looked into doing my own but don't have the room and some parts are too big. Plus zincing is cheap to get done anyway.

 

Heres some work on the passenger door I've been doing. Just cutting out the rust and welding in new steel.

 

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Removed the original welding dags with a cold chisel.

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Marty

[rodomo]

These car are a mess with welding debris

[sibhs]

Did a bit of light cleaning.

Firstly the tail light housing needed rejuvenating so I put them in a solution of hydrochloric acid and water for 10 mins. Seemed to work well.

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A bit of a before and after shot.

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Going through my indicator housings to hopefully make a left and right.

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Taking over the kitchen sink while Sally watches Poldark

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Managed to make up one side, I'll need to strip some light blue wire out of an old harness to make the other side.

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These plastic chrome housings looked very ordinary and I was cleaning them up to re-spray them with a chrome paint. I gave them a scrub with one of those stainless steel woolly cleaners you find under the sink. They came up amazing without damaging chrome.

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Marty

[claysummers]

Great work. It’s amazing how good old chrome, apparently pitted and rusty, comes up with a decent clean.

Now finish those dishes.


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[sibhs]

Heres a little tip/story about zincing.

 

Before I drop stuff off to my zinc platers I photograph all the bits next to their bag which has marked what it is.  Next it's all taken in bags in a box with colour (Silver, gold or Black) written on it.

 

I try and take them on a Monday or Tuesday so I can get them back the same week and they're not left in the factory over the week-end.  When they're ready I pick them up as soon as possible.

 

When home I un-wire them and using pictures sort out where they belong.

 

Well!   A couple of weeks ago I got some parts back and was missing the main pin from the gear selector/shifter.  I printed out my photo of the parts bag and went back to zinc platers asking if it was lying around the factory somewhere.  They couldn't find it so I left them the copy with my ph number.

 

I dropped by a week later and still no luck. I presumed it had fallen in to the bottom of the acid bath and dissolved.  Next day I get a call they had found it sitting on the fork lift still not zinced. They offered to zinc it and be ready tomorrow. I decided to pick it up because I was in the area and it doesn't need zincing and I don't want to push my luck.

 

It's worth chasing up these parts and if I hadn't left a photo or number it would of been found and they would've had no idea who's it was.

 

I will just wire brush the pin and it should come up ok.

 

Marty

 

 

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[sibhs]

Painted the silver on to the tail lights. Little tricky getting the lines correct and avoiding over spray at the junctions.

 

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[Cook]

Good work as always Marty but I guess when it's the missus car she is keeping an eye on things.  Good point about detailing all the items sent away for plating.  Another thing I would note is that re-plating does create some brittleness.  As example I had my seat frames re-plated, which I was really happy with as they were in a really bad state, but some of the bent up tabs (if that makes sense) that wires fit to were too brittle to reuse.  You have done more work in 12 months than I have done in 6 years.  Cheers Ron

[sibhs]

Good work as always Marty but I guess when it's the missus car she is keeping an eye on things.  Good point about detailing all the items sent away for plating.  Another thing I would note is that re-plating does create some brittleness.  As example I had my seat frames re-plated, which I was really happy with as they were in a really bad state, but some of the bent up tabs (if that makes sense) that wires fit to were too brittle to reuse.  You have done more work in 12 months than I have done in 6 years.  Cheers Ron

Hi Ron,

I know what you mean about things getting brittle. I have found the clips that hold the heater box together break easily after zincing. I loose about 10% of them to breakage.

I was just going to mention it's been two years today since I started stripping the car. I picked it up last year on Anzac day and got into it a few days later.

 

Marty

[sibhs]

Celebrating one year of restoration on the car with a coffee on the deck.



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[S pack]

Hi Ron,

.I was just going to mention it's been two years today since I started stripping the car. I picked it up last year on Anzac day and got into it a few days later.

 

Marty

Nice one Marty. You don't happen to own a Delorean do you?

Love the coffee cups. Gotta get me some.

 

Cheers

Dave.

[Ice]

Arh now i know why your selling the Sprintys goin for the factory look on Sals car

[sibhs]

Nice one Marty. You don't happen to own a Delorean do you?

Love the coffee cups. Gotta get me some.

 

Cheers

Dave.

BUGGER! Stuffed that up. Should of said ONE year ago.

Arh now i know why your selling the Sprintys goin for the factory look on Sals car

Yep, Sals will be steelies.

[sibhs]

I’ve got a horn on!
Here’s some pics on getting it there.













Marty


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