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#26 dattoman

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 05:42 PM

Yes

But he now has a diff I believe
Does yours have the detroit locker centre though ?

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 06:19 PM

Yes

But he now has a diff I believe
Does yours have the detroit locker centre though ?

I wish it had a detroit locker!

need a diff for that sedan your going to build?

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 06:25 PM

No I'm just going to use the one I bought off Gav (2 fly)
Its a XY - I believe - sailsbury type with a spool and 3.55 gears
Setup for Commodore pattern and disc brakes

I still need to find a diff for the SS hatch with 385 cubes of Chev goodness but I'll probably go for the 9" variety there

But...... I know a guy whos fitting a big sailsbury into his hatch and needs a detroit if you know where to find one

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 06:29 PM

No I'm just going to use the one I bought off Gav (2 fly)
Its a XY - I believe - sailsbury type with a spool and 3.55 gears
Setup for Commodore pattern and disc brakes

I still need to find a diff for the SS hatch with 385 cubes of Chev goodness but I'll probably go for the 9" variety there

But...... I know a guy whos fitting a big sailsbury into his hatch and needs a detroit if you know where to find one

the XY diff will be a BW i would assume

is that welby that needs the DL?

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 06:46 PM

I know nothing about XY diffs... just what I was told
Happy to have someone confirm what it is
Just need Tinks to take pics..... my pic taking skills suck balls

And yes the DL is for Marcus Aurelius Welbius

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 07:12 PM

SO do we know the total width of the Lh-LX diff with drums fitted. I measured mine very quickly with the wheels on and it was 1440mm. I'll re measure it tomorrow with the wheels off and straight edges. What's the A9X 10 bolt width?

I did this in the other thread, the Nissan one was 1460mm overall BUFs and the LH was 1450...either way..it was 10mm difference..
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http://www.gmh-toran...topic=9959&st=0

Edited by rorym, 12 February 2007 - 07:18 PM.


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Posted 12 February 2007 - 08:26 PM

From the other thread.

I was told by Phil Taverna Chassis that the standard LX torana diff is 56.5 inches or 1435mm. I measured by original LX diff as 1438mm.


For a road car as long as you do not increase the track by more than 25mm then you will not have a problem.

LX Torana
SL Front 1394mm
SL Rear 1372mm

SS Front 1405mm
SS Rear 1382mm

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 09:49 PM

If anyone actually checks it at rego
Never seen one checked before

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 09:56 PM

For a road car as long as you do not increase the track by more than 25mm then you will not have a problem.

Except in Qld....they wouldnt know what a track was or how to measure it...shit! I had to show the 20yo girl where the bloody engine number was!!!....bottom line is...and we have had 5 different measurements...which all depend on where you do it from..the Nissan diff is 10mm wider then a std LH one.
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Edited by rorym, 12 February 2007 - 09:57 PM.


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Posted 13 February 2007 - 12:02 AM

If the modifications to the car require engineering then you can expect to have the track measured. In my opinion it is not worth the risk. On an unflared LX Torana staying within the track limits puts the wheels in the centre of the guard anyhow.

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 06:36 AM

The guys that do QLD mod plates rarely measure track, and Rorys car is flared so it doesnt matter that much

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 05:53 PM

And When you do an engineered diff swap in qld, the track measurement is based on the conversion diff, not the Torana one anyway.

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 07:24 PM

And When you do an engineered diff swap in qld, the track measurement is based on the conversion diff, not the Torana one anyway.

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I have heard this before but it does not make any sense. What does the track of the donor vehicle have to do with anything? There must be other criteria.

Track can be altered by changing the axles, rims or brakes.

The WA requirements are in the National Code of Practice page 17.
http://www.dotars.go...ng_3Feb2006.pdf

The vehicle modification application form has questions covering the front and rear track before and after modification. You can expect the track to be checked before a permit will be issued for diff or brake conversions.
http://www.dpi.wa.go...orm_prodveh.pdf

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 01:03 AM

I don't make the rules, I just try to learn how to exploit them - the only other criteria was your wheels can't rub on the body work or suspension and the car must maintain reasondable roadholding. You can narrow or widen your track as much as you want if you do it by shortening or lengthening your diffhousing and not by wheel offset.(provided you meet those other 2 criteria above and get it engineered).
The idea is to prevent too much side loading on the wheel bearings and axles.

Saying all that, qld is in the process of bringing in the new national regs - My compliance guy tells me they are both in effect at the moment.

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 09:16 PM

For an LH-LX
Use the skyline diff if you want to run HQ ofset wheels, OR
Use a VL turbo or 5.0 diff if you want to run Commodore offset.
If you use the Skyline diff, standard commodore offset rubs on the inner guard...
I have used both, just depends on what wheels you want to run.....
I preffer the VL version cause there is no redrilling of axles needed... :spoton:

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 09:23 PM

Yeah but you have to cut 3"' out of each side then, weld the brackets on, get the axles cut and resplined...with the Skylinre diff...you just weld the brackets on and get the axles re drilled..quoted $1400 for the VL way and $500 for the Skyline way. Bingo!..New diff with disc brakes that the handbrake works off a single pull cable...couldnt be easier...its exactly the same diff by the way..I bought an LSD centre for $80 and a full spool for $165, so I now need to decide what way to go.
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Edited by rorym, 18 March 2007 - 09:37 PM.


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Posted 18 March 2007 - 09:40 PM

The skyline diff is 10mm wider each side than the std LH one..I am running cut guards and flares .
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Posted 19 March 2007 - 12:01 AM

I bought an LSD centre for $80 and a full spool for $165, so I now need to decide what way to go.

Simple decision. Sell the full spool to me for $50 and that answers your question and helps me out too.

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 03:06 PM

i found this out the hardway....

the axle flange bolts on the pintara diff are rotated about 45 degrees compared to the commodore. this affects running the commodore handbrake as even if you redrill the backing plate to suit, it still puts a flange bolt smack in the spot where the adjuster sits.

so i have more homework to do if i want to run a handbrake....

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 03:30 PM

Very interesting discussion about diff's to go into an LH/LX.

I dunno what i'm going to do with the VL diff i was given now. :burnout:

Can anyone tell me what they paid for their nissan b/w diff? That also factors into the cost of the diff swap.

Cheers

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 08:41 PM

$100..I will pick it up in 2 weeks..post pics and prices for the job then.
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Posted 01 April 2007 - 09:46 PM

sweet been hanging out for this one............

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 09:08 PM

I got a skyline diff and 2 lsd/s centres for $150 ,and now will find of Rory where to get mine drilled ,i will fab the brackets myself , TREX

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 09:27 PM

Aussie Diffs on the Gold coast Rex

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 01:06 AM

My g/f's brother just bought a torana with a VL disc brake diff in it, and it doesn't look like the diff has been shortened at all, just had the torana suspension mounts put on. Std 15" commy " chassers " fill out the rear guards fairly decent and don't foul on anything.

I was suprised with how the diff & wheels fit under the torana's bum.

Cheers

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