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#76 MRLXSS

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 05:37 PM

That looks cool! Different... But it will still fit in with the rest of the car! good stuff!

Got to ask tho, how come it has readings on it? is that just a set display that comes up?

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 05:41 PM

Thanks for the comment MRLXSS, I was wondering when someone was going to say something! :D
I asked them for a photo once it was completed with all the display working so I could see what it looked like and beast them if they got it wrong, but they didn't. I guess its part of the process to make sure the thing works.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 06:16 PM

Awesome! Not sure if you have said this. But what will the rest of the dash look like? Silver? Black? Woodgrain?

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 10:06 PM

The rest of the dash will be the genuine SS silver dash. I'm trying to keep the interior as stock as possible.

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 01:12 PM

Looks really good Brewster :)
I had the dakota gauges in my hatch too and they worked really well!

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 01:28 PM

looking good Brewster, I was having a beer one of the guys who was working on your kit the other day

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 01:31 PM

Yummy :D

Looking good Andrew. Really like that dash :spoton:

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 02:15 PM

congrats on the work so far brewster :spoton: . Could you possibly pm me contact details for dakota digital as i have been trying to do exactly what you have done locally with no success.
Many thanks jayson.

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 02:18 PM

Thanks guys, i'm glad that other people like the dash too. Makka, great guys to be having beers with. They're magicians when it comes to modifications, well atleast thats what i like to think. They are doing a fantastic job.

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 02:55 PM

PM sent LX 0076, finally, i'm in transit and internet on a mobile phone is shite. Takes forever!

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 09:16 PM

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Just to let anyone else know if they are thinking of getting a similar job done from dakota digital, just a few points to consider.

Dakota Digital offered me 2 options,

1. Pay in full and get the job done in under 4 weeks. ( I paid upfront and it got done in a week and a half. ) or

2. Pay 50% and they will start the job, but can't gurantee that it will be completed in under 4 weeks.

The total cost was $1050 US including postage back to Australia, at the time of the exchange rate, it worked out to be a tad over $1240 AU.

Then, the faithful and dilligent employees of Australian Customs will seize it, and it will cost you, another $250 bucks to hire a customs broker and pay tax on it. Thank you, Australian Customs, keep up the great work! :spoton: NOT! :furious:

To think of what I could have done with the money instead of all that, however, a little individuality has to come at a price, I guess.

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 09:57 PM

Another small update on what else has happened so far:

CAE are putting together the custom PWR radiator for the engine bay, and

The custom fuel tank is going together as well. Its not a drop tank, rather it will be a 70 litre tank that will follow the contour of the original tank.

As my car has no flares or isn't going to have huge wheels, a drop tank would look a little silly so this option works well. However, I have to cut the spare wheel well out so the tank sits flush. Upon some great advice, its better this way because of the height of the commodore internal fuel pump.

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 10:01 PM

The next step is to organise the real supercharger from Raptor to be sent down so the pulley alignment can take place. Also, I've decided to go intercooled and at a good time to. If I had have left that any later, then the air con condensor might have gotten in the way! Sweet!
The dash is there at CAE so the job on the wiring loom can commence.

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 10:41 PM

If you are planning on buying a VT-VX Commodore pump from CAE I would get them to price match the local holden dealer. Last time I checked they were around $200 from GMH and $350 from CAE.

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 10:48 PM

Thanks for that, I just checked my last invoice and the fuel pump didn't cost that much. It was only 130 bucks! :D

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 11:41 PM

Thanks for the info Brewster. You have an awesome build going there.

Seen nothing like it man.

Cheers, Leakey

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 10:26 AM

Thank you Leakey, but don't hold your breath mate, this is going to take a while to get it all together. All the money seems to be going into the conversion and I'm going to have nothing left for the body of the car :cry:
I forgot to mention that CAE will also be doing the custom extractors as well.

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 11:26 AM

You may also want to look a baffling around the fuel pump or a sump. The built in surge tank on the VT-VX pump only holds around 200ml. This is acceptable in a Commodore tank as they are tall and thin.

The Torana tank is the worst possible design for fuel surge as it is shallow, wide and long. Making a sump for the pump to sit in would reduce possible fuel surge problems.

Something like this.
http://www.aeromotiv...m/pdf/18650.pdf

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 09:57 PM

You may also want to look a baffling around the fuel pump or a sump. The built in surge tank on the VT-VX pump only holds around 200ml. This is acceptable in a Commodore tank as they are tall and thin.

The Torana tank is the worst possible design for fuel surge as it is shallow, wide and long. Making a sump for the pump to sit in would reduce possible fuel surge problems.

G'day ls2lxhatch, thank you for that handy link regarding fuel surge information. :D
The Alloytec engine doesn't have a fuel return system like other fuel injected engines. It runs at a constant 58 psi.
The issues you raised regarding the surge problem and tank height problems have already been addressed by CAE. The spare wheel well will be removed to make the fuel tank 50mm deeper at the front, to fit the fuel pump in. ( I am not sure what brand or type it is, but its what they have used to meet the requirement for the fuel system. ) The fuel tank will also have an internal surge tank and baffles so nothing goes dry on me.
This way, the fuel requirements are met for the system, and I get to retain a smiliar sized tank for the practicallity factor. :D
I apologise if I didn't cleary state this earlier in any of my posts.

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 10:46 PM

like the build however frightfully expensive it is, keep at it.

what makes you think a drop tank isnt practical??

keep up the good work.

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 10:52 PM

The fuel starvation problems are the same whether you have a deadhead or full flow EFI system.

In my opinion you need to be able to guarantee enough fuel for a minimum of 12 seconds at full throttle with a maximum of 15 litres in the tank. If I was in your position I would want designs of the tank they intend to build or a written guarantee.

The sump system is the best solution if you do not want to run a lift pump as once fuel has fallen into the sump it can not escape. Baffles on the other hand can only slow the movement of fuel from one place to the other.

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 08:26 AM

what makes you think a drop tank isnt practical??

Thanks for the comments John, and yes, it is turning out to be just that, frightfully expensive, thats why I haven't told my dad about it, other wise he'd kill me. But I'll keep going at it, no turning back now! :D
Sorry John, I probably should have said asthetically factor rather than practicallity factor. I have seen Torana's without flares with huge wheels and 120L drop tanks, and I didn't like the look of it. ( Sorry to those members that have that sort of car! ) I know some drop tanks have an issue with ground clearance, such as backing up steep drive ways, and some drop tanks have been designed to resolve that problem. They are practical that they hold all that fuel, but its not practical on your wallet when you've got to fill them up from empty.
My plan is to powder coat / paint, ( which ever works ), the tank black anyway, and I get to retain the tank straps, ( with a little modification ), which I want to either chrome, or have stainless. :D

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 08:45 AM

The fuel starvation problems are the same whether you have a deadhead or full flow EFI system.

In my opinion you need to be able to guarantee enough fuel for a minimum of 12 seconds at full throttle with a maximum of 15 litres in the tank. If I was in your position I would want designs of the tank they intend to build or a written guarantee.

The sump system is the best solution if you do not want to run a lift pump as once fuel has fallen into the sump it can not escape. Baffles on the other hand can only slow the movement of fuel from one place to the other.

Thank you ls2lxhatch for your valuable advice, I'll contact CAE shortly and raise those points, now that you've made me paranoid! :blink: :blink: :blink:

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 03:11 PM

All is sweet, 2 litre surge tank, plenty of baffles around surge tank to keep the fuel in. See, I knew there was no reason to doubt the brilliant work of CAE! I'm no longer paranoid now! :D

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 10:18 PM

Ok, here's an update, got some more pics off CAE today, and work is once again progressing really well, thanks to some awesome work fromt the guys.

Here are some pics of the fuel tank, approx 70 litres..



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