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Started by _Brewster_ , Jul 01 2007 05:15 PM

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#126 RIM-010

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 08:50 PM

Good to see an update mate. Slow and steady wins the race, as they say!

Pioneering is never easy, but you'll reap the rewards when she's done.

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#127 _Brewster_

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 08:55 PM

Good to see an update mate. Slow and steady wins the race, as they say!

Pioneering is never easy, but you'll reap the rewards when she's done.

Tim

Cheers Tim, there are only 2 problems I can see with the slow and steady thing,

1. Fuel is going to be extremely high by the time this car is finished and I won't be able to afford to fill it up, and

2. I can't wait that long, I'm busting as it is! :spoton:

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#128 RIM-010

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:01 PM

You're not alone with those two...

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#129 _torana_

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 09:57 AM

awesome project brewster, but i would be getting those straps modified before chroming. Once that tank is full ( 70kg ) those straps might pull straight before the rear mounting point where the nice curve is bent, even with the upper locating tangs holding the tank in place.

cheers Julian

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#130 _Brewster_

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 08:02 PM

Hi Julian, well spotted! Will certainly have to look at that when it gets back. Thank you :spoton:

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#131 _Brewster_

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 08:04 PM

Sorry, but this isn't much of an update, the dakota digital dash is hooked up, the loom is done and the engine still doesn't turn over. The options are fast running out to sort the problem. One of them was for a Holden Technician to come down with his scanner tool to sort it, only to say for some reason Holden don't want anything to do with my car! :furious:

Thanks alot Holden...NOT! No credit goes your way you bastards! And I'll remember this for along time! :furious:

Find out in two weeks if plan B is going to work...
Bit of a bugger, I was hoping to have it all back before chrissy.

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#132 orangeLJ

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 07:57 AM

So there is an electrical fault stopping the engine from turning over?

Doesnt someone up there have a scan tool? they are readily available these days, generally enough to find faults (although not as detailed as holdens own one)

Whats plan B??

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#133 _TJ253_

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:41 AM

That sucks bigtime hope you can figure it out

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#134 _Brewster_

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 10:29 PM

So there is an electrical fault stopping the engine from turning over?

Doesnt someone up there have a scan tool? they are readily available these days, generally enough to find faults (although not as detailed as holdens own one)

Whats plan B??

The electrical fault is the Power interface module doesn't have the same pin code as the ECU, which means it won't let the body control module talk to the ECU to start.
Apparently the Holden scan tool is worth over 40K, and the idea was to get one of their techs down with the tool to change the code. :<_<:

Plan B is getting a new power interface module and the guy that actually makes the power interface module will visit to do some handy work. That won't happen for two more weeks. Fingers crossed they can get that biatch started!

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#135 _Brewster_

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 10:32 PM

That sucks bigtime hope you can figure it out

Thanks TJ, poor old Jake the elec tech is the bloke coming up with all the solutions at the moment, if plan B doesn't work, plan C will have to work, physically get hold of the next VZ commy that goes to the wreckers and before they dismantle the thing, I'll have to get all 3 components off it, ECU, BCM and PIM. That way they will all match. TOUCH WOOD!

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#136 _mumstaxi_

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Posted 23 November 2008 - 08:18 AM

That must be so frustrating you poor bugger,having it all sitting in the bay and it wont go due to stupid ECU issue.

Yeh the VZs the engine cranking is all fully electronic controlled, so much so, that if you just "flick" the IGN key to the start position, the car just takes over and holds the starter going untill the engine fires,even though you dont have your hand even near the key.

Its funny, after driving a VZ for months, i find i am now "lazy" and i get in other cars and just flick the key to start (instead of holding key on untill started) and of course the engine will turn over a little, but wont start :cry:

You'll get it sorted soon i'm sure....... mmm,a Microtech must be starting to look good about now, especially for getting the most out of being supercharged (LOL)

MT

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#137 _hatcher_

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Posted 23 November 2008 - 09:34 AM

Its funny, after driving a VZ for months, i find i am now "lazy" and i get in other cars and just flick the key to start (instead of holding key on untill started) and of course the engine will turn over a little, but wont start

I do exactly the same thing!

Dave.

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#138 _Brewster_

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Posted 23 November 2008 - 07:55 PM

That must be so frustrating you poor bugger,having it all sitting in the bay and it wont go due to stupid ECU issue.

Yeh the VZs the engine cranking is all fully electronic controlled, so much so, that if you just "flick" the IGN key to the start position, the car just takes over and holds the starter going untill the engine fires,even though you dont have your hand even near the key.

Its funny, after driving a VZ for months, i find i am now "lazy" and i get in other cars and just flick the key to start (instead of holding key on untill started) and of course the engine will turn over a little, but wont start

You'll get it sorted soon i'm sure....... mmm,a Microtech must be starting to look good about now, especially for getting the most out of being supercharged (LOL)

MT

Thanks for that MT, I didn't realise the ignition system worked like that. I mean, I don't own a VZ commodore and I've never driven one. This thing better be a bloody good ride when its finished!

Speaking of the tuning issue, luckily for me, there are some minor performance development going on with the Alloytec, although its rather costly. That is CPR6 have created a tunnel ram manifold, although it costs 3,300 bucks! And billet cam shafts are 750 each and upwards! ( its got 4 of them! ) Apparently VCM suite have been saying they're going to bring out a mafless tune for this, but its been put on the back burner because other software upgrades have taken precedence.

By the time I get around to getting it done, surly it would have been tried and tested by then...surly! :spoton:

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#139 _studricho_

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Posted 23 November 2008 - 09:26 PM

Great thread and progress so far. Sucks about the pin code thing. Surely someone must know someone from this forum that could help sort out the holden pin code issue?

Watching this thread with great interest.

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#140 orangeLJ

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:22 AM

Thats one of the dramas with new engines, the electronics are all matched in an effort to stop stolen parts being re-used etc etc.

This really puts the wreckers of the future out though doesnt it! if your BCM shits itself, then its off to holden for a new one (aslong as they still make them!)

Late model astras are the same with ECUs being matched to other components. The drama is, they "program" themselves, so if a mechanic assumes the ECU is rooted, orders a new one for the ridiculous price from holden, and plugs it in, it programs itself to that car, and if it doesnt fix the problem, then its too late! its already useless!

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#141 orangeLJ

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:25 AM

Thats one of the dramas with new engines, the electronics are all matched in an effort to stop stolen parts being re-used etc etc.

This really puts the wreckers of the future out though doesnt it! if your BCM shits itself, then its off to holden for a new one (aslong as they still make them!)

Late model astras are the same with ECUs being matched to other components. The drama is, they "program" themselves, so if a mechanic assumes the ECU is rooted, orders a new one for the ridiculous price from holden, and plugs it in, it programs itself to that car, and if it doesnt fix the problem, then its too late! its already useless!

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#142 _mumstaxi_

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 09:11 AM

Yeh the VZ is not a bad car as a whole,the "fly by wire" VZ 6cyl engine is a little less responsive than the previous engine's in the commodores,and so feels a bit doughie if you are used to the previous model.

The "softer" acceleration off the line can be good, simpley because you can plant your foot and it just goes without spinning wheels.

The down side is the "delay" when you accelerate hard when moving (overtaking etc) the bloody thing can feel like its asleep even when full throttle, half of the problem is gearbox kickdown related,and you can combat this by leaving the PWR button on and pulling the shifter back a gear or two manually.

As you are going supercharged,you will have mass amounts of extra torque,and so this tendancy to NOT just "rev its tits off" could be a good thing, using the blower torque to push the car forward hard.

Its all in the ENG tune anyway ,plus your standard VZ executive (lightest model) weighs in @ 1552KG,you could come in a couple of hundred KG lighter in a Torana, so its gonna fly regardless

MT

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Posted 25 November 2008 - 11:22 PM

so thats why the VE got the manual select on the 5spd auto, selecting gears it drives like a different car, no noticable lag. gear ratio is the problem, close to loosing your licence in second gear! needs lower ratio diff.

good luck with the electronics.
I have had issues with late model stuff, holden service is useless, just open your cheque book while they try to figure it out.

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#144 _Brewster_

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 08:54 PM

Thanks MT for that info, I hope the 3.7 diff gears that I want to use will also help with that lag you talk of. I'll just have to wait and see.

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#145 _torana_49_

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 11:03 PM

any updates? i enjoyed reading this thread, looking forward to hear how it all went with the ECU etc

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#146 _Brewster_

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 03:50 PM

Hi Mike,

Sorry for the late reply, and thank you for your interest.

Unfortunately, the project is on the back burner, CAE have other projects going so mine isn't a priority at the moment. Which I don't mind, that was the deal in he first place, it's more of a fill in project when they have down time.
As for the ECU, spoke to Con just before chrissy and he said he knows a Holden tech and will be able to sweet talk them around and not to worry as it will get done. Fine by me I say. I'm not stressing about it at the moment.

I got hold of a 21 Circuit EZY wiring harness for a song, brand new never used for the old girl.

And I got hold of some names for a potential panel beater and car upholster from word of mouth that I'm going to look into. They came highly recommended.

But thats about it, nothing more to update on sorry.

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#147 _Brewster_

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 05:17 PM

I got the interior for the old girl, although I don't know how well its going to go. All Leather VZ Calasis with electric bucket seats! YEAH BABY! But they'll be retrimmed to suit.
I like the look of the rear seat backs and am hoping it won't be too much of a mission to try and graft them in.

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#148 _Brewster_

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:12 PM

Well ladies and gents, this is it! I've been informed that this Wednesday is D Day! A holden technician has been sweet talked into visiting my engine to get it going. Fingers crossed he gets that bitch fired and raring to go! Oh, and I take back everything bad I said about Holden!